I think the issue was that the Go Pro guy was accused of cutting the line by using the ski school line. It doesn't seem that it was a ski school line, but it doesn't necessarily look like a singles line.
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I think the issue was that the Go Pro guy was accused of cutting the line by using the ski school line. It doesn't seem that it was a ski school line, but it doesn't necessarily look like a singles line.
It's hard to tell what the purpose of the line that the gopro dude used was, but clearly he wasn't the only one using it, apparently as a singles line. It's not like he was part of a group trying to cut everyone, he was waiting for a group needing a single. I don't see the problem with that? He's just being opportunistic.
The one thing I can't recall is if Wildcat was a double or triple....double IIRC. In that case, I don't usually see single lines for doubles, at least not at Snowbird or most of the lifts at Sugarbush.
As soon as I read that happened at Alta I knew it would be some douchey thing. I'm a snowboarder so that place can go fuck itself for all I care, but the number of douchey things I've heard from it is unbelievable.
A friend of mine is a really good skier and he said as much as he loved the terrain he'd never go back due to the large number of idiots he encountered there.
A friend of mine is a really good skier and he said as much as he loved the terrain he'd never go back due to the large number of idiots he encountered there.
Don't want to get sidetracked, but I wanted to discuss this idea for a bit. Last season I skied at Alta twice (a Sunday and a Monday) and I didn't run into any idiots like this, but I was surprised as to who showed up to ski it. I did sense an elitest vibe that I was not expecting. I saw some very expensive cars, folks in very expensive outfits, and older folks that looked out of place for what is supposed to be a simple ski area. I'd expect that at Deer Valley. And the lodging prices for such rustic amenities were really high.
My experience, beyond that, is limited. I did research into passes there and I just felt like they were not the "people's mountain" they claim to be. Information was very limited. Like Stowe, they waited until the last minute to release their pass prices. Snowbird and others were selling passes LONG before and at better prices. And the price/value was a bit off I thought...considering the fact that they close so early. No real good deals, no real added benefits, etc. I got the sense that they felt they did not have to offer any good deals.
But if the anti-snowboard thing does lead to more problems with clientele and making the place attract idiots, then is this true for MRG? Deer Valley? (I can't say, but they are very elitest). I don't want to cause a :argue: just want to hear what other folks think.
My experience is obviously anecdotal, what with me being banned from the place, but I've met two different skiers who have flat out stated to me "I love Alta because there's no snowboarders". That along with videos like that and my friends own comments have me thinking "Alta = douches".
As much as I disagree with MRG banning snowboarders, I don't feel that "MRG = douches".
As much as I disagree with MRG banning snowboarders, I don't feel that "MRG = douches".
SkiDork
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Just looking at the situation, the line was freakin huge. Can't imagine the line gopro dude got on was meant for singles... If that were the case there would have been a ton more people using it...
drjeff
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That's exactly how my mind was processing that video/scenario too! Then again, not everyone (i.e. GoPro dude in this case) has the same level of common sense
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Sunday at Loon I was in the queue for the Seven Brothers chair and there was a bit of anarchy. Three sets of twos jumped in front of my husband and me as we approached the lift. A man around 30 and a young boy were just about to cut in front of me, but I had had enough. "Excuse me...it's NOT your turn." He just nodded and pulled back and the kid followed suit. I fully expected him to ignore me. I was happy he didn't.
Later that day we were in line for the gondola and were the next couple to be let into the loading area, when the liftee notices two college-age kids breathing down her neck, facing the wrong way in the corral. "Can we hop on with our friends?" They point to the people behind me...there's easily 20 - 30 people between them and their friends. Liftee says, "Line goes that way," and points them into the corral to finish their wait. "Oh, c'mon, seriously?" They harass her. "Yes," she says, "All these people have been waiting." Kids: "They won't mind." I say, "I would mind." Kids: "Well, I guess it's a good thing I'm not tryna cut in front of you."
I had to load so I didn't see the end result. I was pissed that they had harassed the poor girl who was just doing her job. Little shits. I said to my husband, "I would be so ashamed if my kids behaved that way."
Scruffy
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I just looked at that vid. The guy did try and tell helmet cam boy nicely he was in the wrong line, no excuse for the head bump though. Alta is a great place, I've been there many a time. That said there is a small but in your face local crowd in SLC that think they don't need tourists to sustain their local ski area resorts, and tend to act all elitist about their ski areas, they'll frequent the Bird as well. You'll see them on the hill running over peeps on the traverses, and call peeps out for not straight lining powder, and such. It has more to do with the close proximity of the the ski areas to the city, where a lot of affluent enough to ski locals want to keep it to themselves. Of course not everyone living in the SLC area and skis has attitude.
So Unofficial has the whole backstory on the Alta Rage video. Apparently the Go Pro guy is an employee who thinks he has privileges to use the ski patrol line but he doesn't, and apparently the end of the video is cut out.
http://unofficialnetworks.com/video...ne-confrontation-pov-angry-angry-skier-80359/
Read the comments.
http://unofficialnetworks.com/video...ne-confrontation-pov-angry-angry-skier-80359/
Read the comments.
SkiDork
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The 3 other people on that line didn't look like patrollers either...
If it's a double, then I doubt there was a singles line. I was assuming that it was at least a triple. Regardless, the other dude was out of line, even if GoPro dude was in the wrong.
Eh, the more I watch it, especially knowing it's a double now, the more I think the GoPro dude is more in the wrong. I still think the "enforcer" was an a-hole too though. In short they both look like douche bags. They should have settled it with a duel to the death.
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Apparently the enforcer is a notorious douchebag of upmost proportions.
Second, there is no signage posted at that lift confirmed by numerous friends who ski there to indicate it is a ski patrol/ski school/ or anything else often times. They also said often that that access is opened up once the line gets pretty long.
Kinda like at the supermarket when they open up another aisle, its always the people just walking up that snag the early spots, and the people already stuck in line wait. No difference here.
That being said, the gopro kid had to know some people might get pissy about it, what the aggro dude did was completely out of line and hes lucky it wasnt somebody else that would have beat the shit out of him. Theres nothing on that video that would have put the gopro kid in the wrong in a court of law if he had defended himself.
Second, there is no signage posted at that lift confirmed by numerous friends who ski there to indicate it is a ski patrol/ski school/ or anything else often times. They also said often that that access is opened up once the line gets pretty long.
Kinda like at the supermarket when they open up another aisle, its always the people just walking up that snag the early spots, and the people already stuck in line wait. No difference here.
That being said, the gopro kid had to know some people might get pissy about it, what the aggro dude did was completely out of line and hes lucky it wasnt somebody else that would have beat the shit out of him. Theres nothing on that video that would have put the gopro kid in the wrong in a court of law if he had defended himself.
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Ding..Ding..
Sir, You have given the correct answer..
Origional video taken down...Thread is ready to close?...:flame:
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The vid has been removed.
What I'm wondering is why aggro-dude didn't call out the three people who were standing in front of POV-dude, doing the same thing he was going to try. None of them had any insignia/markings to indicate they had privilege to cut the line (e.g. ski patrol, instructor). Aggro-dude focused solely on POV-dude, which suggests they may have some history.
In any event, no matter how POV-dude was acting (and I'm not trying to defend him), aggro-dude was the one who took it to a physical level. He walked over POV-dude's skis (even after POV told him "you can go in front of me"), then intentionally struck POV with his helmet-- not once but twice. To top it off, he turned around and, if I heard correctly, said what he was going to do to POV's wife. Clearly he was the aggressor.
I have to wonder what he's capable of doing when the camera isn't watching.
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