Yeah, the video is off of YouTube because Alta asked that it be removed.
And Alta also said that there is no singles line for the Wildcat Double.
And Alta also said that there is no singles line for the Wildcat Double.
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hammer
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Didn't know that a business like Alta could force removal of a video...sounds like censorship to me...
At least Go Pro guy should know better the next time around...
Oh man was I high last night!!!! I'm just gonna leave this here
Alta wrote the guy who posted the video and asked that it be taken down.
hammer
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OK, makes sense. Actually good of Go Pro guy to do that. Hope they also reminded him about there being no singles line.
Doing a helmet check, no matter how deserved, is not the way to go, however.
Smellytele
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I was pondering that post
jrmagic
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Yup. I was thinking though.. if gopro dude clicked out of his bindngs quick he could have gone after aggro dude in a big way like when a hockey player puulls up his opponents jersey to tie him up. It would be hard for him to defend himself while he's getting hit and locked into his binders:razz:
Stowe offers a singles line on the Lookout Double. Works pretty fairly. They let a few rows of doubles go and then two individuals from the singles line. It prevents chairs going up with only 1 person on it.
gmcunni
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i've seen (and taken advantage of this) at other places but the logic escapes me. WHY PULL 2 from the singles line? i'm OK with a singles line on a double for the oddball 3some skiing together but when you take 2 peeps from singles it just baffles me.
Yeah I would've been very tempted to throw my arm round his neck and drag him to the ground.
Because people are dumb and often don't pair up on their own. I recall skiing Smuggs one time where there wasn't a singles line for the Madonna Double. Line was huge, many chairs were going up with singles on them because strangers didn't pair up on their own ahead of time in line. The system at Stowe seemed to work in that the folks in the singles line received no time savings advantage from the doubles skiers and zero chairs went up that weren't full.
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However, the lifties also said that the line the gopro guy was in was usually open to all, except on powder days. The gopro guy was definately wrong, but in his post on UnNet he did sound like he wasn't aware of the powder day policy in regards to that line. It also can be argued that the 3 people ahead of him should have been yelled at first, considering there appeared to be nothing saying they were in ski patrol. Finally, I don't care how pissed somebody makes you, especially when we are talkng a ski lift line, you should not lay a hand on anybody. I am not sure I could have been as reserved as the gopro guy was. Bottom line, gopro guy was wrong, aggressive ski line Nazi.........really really wrong. I have no problem with a little yelling, etc, but but physically touching somebody in such a manner.....I don't think so.
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While I can personally say I have never seen a singles line on a double, I guess it does make sense during peak times and I am not sure it makes somebody dumb for not doubling up. Often times it can be tough to see whether people are singles or doubles as the lines are often just a cluster fuck and people are not moving at the same pace or doubled up right until they get to the front of the line.
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that would make an awesome forum username - Notorious Douchebag
Perhaps "dumb" was too harsh of a descriptor. Maybe oblivious would be a better word choice. You are absolutely right that it can be difficult to see other singles in line. It can also be difficult for the lifty to spot separate singles in different lanes and pair them up in time without disrupting lift loading. That's why I thought the system worked really well at Stowe and that a place like Smuggs that only has double chairs would be wise to employ such line management.
The day I witnessed this at Stowe was a busy Saturday. The singles line for the quad was a good 20 minutes, then you had the 8 or so minute ride up the Fore Runner. If you chose to ride the double, whether in the singles or doubles line, you were on the lift in 5 minutes, then you have the 15 minute ride to the top. I'd rather spend my time on a lift than standing in line and overall it's a time savings to ride the Lookout Double on a busy day at Stowe than ride the Quad. Unless you're planning on hitting Upper Goat or Nosedive, riding the Double is the better strategy at Stowe on a busy day.
Not to mention that the trail under the Lookout lift is sick, much better than Lift Line under the Quad. So, you usually get to see a lot better skiers ripping it up.
You know whats worse than the liftie pairing two singles together?
Answer: A liftie pairing 4 singles together to make a quad while the rest of the line is waiting!!
I saw this happen at Loon. Not once, but many times during the same day. The lifties felt inclined to pair 4 singles together rather than 1 single and a triple. This prompted groups of 4 to use the single line and expect the lifties to not separate their party.
Of course this was a few years ago--I'm glad they don't do that anymore!
Answer: A liftie pairing 4 singles together to make a quad while the rest of the line is waiting!!
I saw this happen at Loon. Not once, but many times during the same day. The lifties felt inclined to pair 4 singles together rather than 1 single and a triple. This prompted groups of 4 to use the single line and expect the lifties to not separate their party.
Of course this was a few years ago--I'm glad they don't do that anymore!
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