Perfect New England tree ski

[St. Bear]

I would length is about right but just tip rocker with camber. No tail rocker.

Depends on what level skier you are. I don't like skis with flat tails, as I don't have the ability to drive them like I should and I find that I get locked into turns. I would want some tail rocker to slarve turns when I need to.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Depends on what level skier you are. I don't like skis with flat tails, as I don't have the ability to drive them like I should and I find that I get locked into turns. I would want some tail rocker to slarve turns when I need to.

This is another part of the confusing equation IMO. Does slarving the back of turns really mean you're not skilled? I've seen some awesome skiers use slarving as their preferred tree skiing method. They move through the trees like lightning, but the turns are very "tail-focused" if that makes any sense.

 

[St. Bear]

This is another part of the confusing equation IMO. Does slarving the back of turns really mean you're not skilled? I've seen some awesome skiers use slarving as their preferred tree skiing method. They move through the trees like lightning, but the turns are very "tail-focused" if that makes any sense.

From a practical sense, probably not.

From a technical sense, I think so.

 

[Puck it]

I forgot. I think you should use those Shiros that you got for cheap last year. 195cms?

 

[MadMadWorld]

Slarving is a ridiculous term for ECers. Your either riding on wayyyyy too big of a ski or you are a gaper. Most likely both

 

[St. Bear]

Slarving is a ridiculous term for ECers. Your either riding on wayyyyy too big of a ski or you are a gaper. Most likely both

I'm not disputing that, but I'm having fun regardless.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Slarving is a ridiculous term for ECers. Your either riding on wayyyyy too big of a ski or you are a gaper. Most likely both

Not understanding what you mean by this. Slarving certainly isn't solely a wide open big mountain bowl tactic.

 

[St. Bear]

I think the Gaper insult is hilarious. Like I'm supposed to recoil in horror if it's insinuated that I'm a wannabe weekend warrior?

 

[BenedictGomez]

I think the Gaper insult is hilarious. Like I'm supposed to recoil in horror if it's insinuated that I'm a wannabe weekend warrior?

I just don't even understand the use of "gaper" in this case. I actually WORKED on slarving in the trees last winter by trying to practice it to get better. AFAIK, the term was invented (or at least popularized) by McKonkey, and he claims it's a useful method in tight trees, so.........

 

[Highway Star]

Wow. I mean really. Wow.

 

[St. Bear]

Wow. I mean really. Wow.

Surprised nobody jumped on your rec?

Maybe if they had better graphics.

 

[MadMadWorld]

Take it easy folks I am just kidding 99% of the time. But seriously slarving is for folks that are riding on skis with very big waists

 

[Edd]

I agree about no flat tail. That has a place on a carver but I have them on my K2 Hardsides (98 underfoot) and it's my biggest pet peeve with them.

 

[bigbog]

Gonna check out(the gaper hand-flex) wider sticks again Friday..

 

[Savemeasammy]

Skiing in the trees requires more creativity than most anywhere else on the hill. For that reason, I want flat tails. I find they are easier to turn unexpectedly - you can literally sit back and lift the tips off the snow and still feel a measure of control. It's also nice to be able to land on your tails if you need to. I also like the edge-to-edge quickness of my skinny skis... I wouldn't argue against a little bit of tip rocker, but it's not a must.


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[bobbutts]

If you're resort skiing, the trees get tracked out too quickly for full rocker. I would want some level of camber underneath.

That was what I was thinking at first too.. Just get a mogul ski. I think the intention of the OP is something more like a powder ski for short radius turns.

 

[bigbog]

Agree bobbutts....
...sliding and slashing has its place in many tree situations here in the NE....

 

[Cannonball]

Nice. More great input!

I have/had a few skis that work well in the trees:
K2 PEs 179cm @ 118/85/109mm,
Dynastar Big Trouble 176cm @ 124/92/114mm

Love 'em both. But if I could improve on them I'd:
1) Make them "bigger" for more float, but without adding length. So I'd like to bump the waist to ~100.
2) Even though they are both quick turners, I'd like to make them even quicker but not really more "carvey". Hence some degree of rocker. But I'm not sure how much, and the input you guys have being throwing in is good.

This is all pretty similar to what BenedictGomez was saying in his original reply.

 

[Puck it]

Nice. More great input!

I have/had a few skis that work well in the trees:
K2 PEs 179cm @ 118/85/109mm,
Dynastar Big Trouble 176cm @ 124/92/114mm




Love 'em both. But if I could improve on them I'd:
1) Make them "bigger" for more float, but without adding length. So I'd like to bump the waist to ~100.
2) Even though they are both quick turners, I'd like to make them even quicker but not really more "carvey". Hence some degree of rocker. But I'm not sure how much, and the input you guys have being throwing in is good.

This is all pretty similar to what BenedictGomez was saying in his original reply.

Are you designing yourself a pair of MR skis? I m going to try them this year and maybe get a pair along with my complimentary bottle of vodka.

 

[Cannonball]

Are you designing yourself a pair of MR skis? I m going to try them this year and maybe get a pair along with my complimentary bottle of vodka.

That's the plan.