pocket rockets/guns or other all-mt twins

[neuvip]

i was reading some reviews of the salomon pocket rockets/1080 guns. seems like a lot of people like these skis for bumps/trees. they're pretty fat, 90 underfoot, and i wouldn't think they'd be that easy to turn in tight spots in the bumps and trees, but lots of people like them for just that. i was considering buying a slightly beat-up pair of all-mt twins for trees, bumps, and the occassional powder/crud day. anybody else use some fatty twins for these purposes? thanks.

 

[WICKEDBUMPER]

I ride Line twin tips in the bumps. I have darksides and skogens. I like them better then the line "bump" ski they made. both are a few seasons old so I dont know if the names have changed. not sure if they are considered "fatty twins" but I do know they are absolutely freaking great in the bumps. I've taken them through waist deep powder many times out west and they are great in the fluff too.
here is the deal...the chatter at moderate to high speed will loosen your teeth and make your feet numb. and you need to be on some snow if you want to carve a turn. carving turns on ice/hardpack cannot be done on 'em. but when you do have a little snow beneth you, you can make lightning quick turns. I've never felt worried on them in the trees. I use them at Jay all the time.
I love my Lines. to me, its the best bump ski I ever rode. that includes winter heats, assults, and SMs.

 

[awf170]

i was reading some reviews of the salomon pocket rockets/1080 guns. seems like a lot of people like these skis for bumps/trees. they're pretty fat, 90 underfoot, and i wouldn't think they'd be that easy to turn in tight spots in the bumps and trees, but lots of people like them for just that. i was considering buying a slightly beat-up pair of all-mt twins for trees, bumps, and the occassional powder/crud day. anybody else use some fatty twins for these purposes? thanks.

buy my skis...
http://forums.alpinezone.com/showthread.php?t=7626

Prices are negotiable...

 

[neuvip]

buy my skis...
http://forums.alpinezone.com/showthread.php?t=7626

Prices are negotiable...

6'1"/200lbs is a little big for 165s, but thanks anyway. how'd you like them for quick turns in softer snow and crud? how'd they hold up on the groomers?

 

[awf170]

6'1"/200lbs is a little big for 165s, but thanks anyway. how'd you like them for quick turns in softer snow and crud? how'd they hold up on the groomers?

Quick turns in soft snow good, crud really good. For groomers they are easy to turn and good on soft snow, but if the snow is hard then they are terrible. Too soft for me though(and short) and I only way 130 pounds. I mean if you only use though if really soft snow your okay, but if you get on a hard groomers there is going to be a lot of chatter. I actually do like the ski but I got a pair of 8800 which is in the same catagory of skis and is just a way better ski all around.

 

[NHpowderhound]

I own the Pocket Rocket and absolutely freakin love them! I ski mainly powder,trees,natural snow/conditions & bumps and these skis rock in all those catagories! The Rocket is also the lightest ski i've ever owned. I have a Fritchi Diamir Alpine Touring binding on them and am extremely happy with my decision. I am 5' 9" and about 160pounds and ski the 165cm and those bad boys have been able to handle anything except solid ice. I was ripping groomers at Jay with them last week when I would take a break from the woods and they can hold a very good edge in packed snow. they also hold speed well too. And when it comes to gliding on the flats, the Rockets are like greased lightning!
But thier element is definately powder conditions. and out here in the East I couldnt justify a ski with a waist much wider than 90mm. The Pocket Rocket fits my style and I couldnt be happier with the ski. They are very soft throughout the whole ski which is why they are sooooo good in the POW! But that is also why they may chatter and not hold an edge well on hardpacked snow.

Good luck!
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*))NHPH

 

[neuvip]

so i guess what i'm hearing here are these are nice skis in soft snow. what percentage of the days you ski would you normally ski these things? i don't want to buy a pair of skis that i'm only going to end up using 2 days a year, i'd rather buy new all-mt carving skis or something. ahhh, why does gear have to be so expensive?

 

[awf170]

so i guess what i'm hearing here are these are nice skis in soft snow. what percentage of the days you ski would you normally ski these things? i don't want to buy a pair of skis that i'm only going to end up using 2 days a year, i'd rather buy new all-mt carving skis or something. ahhh, why does gear have to be so expensive?

As long as the snow is soft there fine. So I would say about 50% in a normal year. Seriously even if there isn't any fresh snow they will do good on everything. But once there are icy spots and hard pack its time to put them away.

 

[Brettski]

I kinda meant my comments for this thread..

http://forums.alpinezone.com/7770-best-bump-all-mountain-ski-3.html

Steep hard pack is a problem...but thats it, and it can be circumvented by longer arching turns...don't try tight carves on the steeps with hard pack...

Or just ski the sides of the trails...

I have used my rockets exclusively for the last four years...

That said...I need to back on my mogul skis, and I'm looking into getting a serious eastern carving ski, and I test drove the volkl allstar...which are great where the others fail on the hard pack....but they tend to overrotate in the much and I expect pow..or it may be the way I was skiing them...but for spring skiing and pow the rockets are great..

 

[Brettski]

Oh, and here

http://weblogs.sqlteam.com/brettk/gallery/image/19.aspx

 

[salida]

I wouldn't go with the 165's (I've skied the 185's, I'm 5'10 195, and I they werent to long for tight east coast tree skiing)...

That being said, the PR's are soft, you should look at the wood core Volkl line up, the Elan 777, or the dynastar legend series...

-Porter

 

[awf170]

I wouldn't go with the 165's (I've skied the 185's, I'm 5'10 195, and I they werent to long for tight east coast tree skiing)...

That being said, the PR's are soft, you should look at the wood core Volkl line up, the Elan 777, or the dynastar legend series...

-Porter

Yeah the 165 feels wicked short. At a 135 pounds they even seemed too short. The 168 inbigs feel way longer.

 

[Brettski]

Just think, you have more ski to throw at the bark when you catch an edge

Make sure you turtle though