Rate Yourself As a Skier/Rider Conservationist

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

You thinkin too much John. It's like saying rate this young woman on a scale of 1-10. It's not axin if you like women or not. BTW, I give her a solid 9.

I like her Boobs!!!

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Sorry for using the word "poll."

The rating system presents a choice along a spectrum of either being for more trees cut or being a "conservationist." The problem with this is that you can be both, so it's not a legit spectrum. I'm a 1 and a 10.

Framing the debate along these lines creates divisions that don't need to exist. Currently in VT, we've got a huge rift between the GMC and the backcountry skiing community because of thinking like this.

I'm not trying to beat you up for this informal survey, but we should be aware of how this plays in the larger culture.

John

p.s. I thought this was "keeping it real."

Atkinson is on point with his comments. The spirit of those comments are why I clarified my "rating" noting that it was not for conservationist reasons, which essentially means that cutting trees to increase skiable acreage and being a conservationist are not mutually exclusive. I can appreciate not mowing down every tree while also being for selective and appropriate pruning in select areas that are sustainable and are going to enhance the forest.

Wow, someone other than me is playing semantics. This is great!!! :-D

And, now I know how it feels within a debate ;-):roll:

Sounds like a very black and white world the way you paint the discussion. That is not the world as I see it.

Not at all thats why I said rate yourself 1-10 because of all the grey area in between. Atkinson said he's a 1 and a 10 and you said he's on point.

As I see the world a lot of people use mobile truth. They spin things to fit what they would like to see happen.

 

[atkinson]

HPD,

Your question and spectrum presented are not like "being for the Iraq War, but against it." You framed the debate in a way that excludes one from being a conservationist and being for managed forests.

Managed forests are often used to protect and enhance habitat and I'm not saying this to play semantics or advance any agenda. Ask a wildlife biologist.

We have protected deeryard in my town that is required to be thinned to encourage certain species and create openings. According to your question, how would somebody vote who is in favor of this type of protection?

John

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

HPD,

Your question and spectrum presented are not like "being for the Iraq War, but against it." You framed the debate in a way that excludes one from being a conservationist and being for managed forests.

Managed forests are often used to protect and enhance habitat and I'm not saying this to play semantics or advance any agenda. Ask a wildlife biologist.

We have protected deeryard in my town that is required to be thinned to encourage certain species and create openings. According to your question, how would somebody vote who is in favor of this type of protection?

John

John,

I meant this to be what I thought a simple question that might generate a discussion. In that I guess it was successful. Best of luck to your town in it's deeryard project.

 

[mattchuck2]

Well, I guess I'm in the minority. When I said, I was an 11 and a proponet of lift and trail expansion, what I had in mind, probably will never happen. I'm thinking classic, Castlerockesque lift serviced terrain, not wide open boulevards. I very much agree with others in their feeling that more pruning could be done. I'm an 11 there to. I'd love to see border to border terrain maintenance in the East. When the snow is good, point em' any direction you wish like out west. As for lifts and trails, if another Goat, Rumble, Robin's Run, Starr, Bubblecuffer, Winter's Way et al. popped up on a map with a lift to it, I'd be freakin' psyched.

Yeah, this is what I was thinking when I looked at this thread too.

I'm all for expansion if it means more glades, tight trails, and secret stashes . . .

I don't know of any mountain in the east that is lacking for courdoroy cattle country.