Re: Driving

[HowieT2]

Re: Driving

Interesting experiment in colorado.

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/commute/2011/10/slowing-drivers-speed-roads-denver/352/

 

[bvibert]

Instead of slowing most people down to 55, how about if everyone just drove 65?? :idea:

 

[ctenidae]

Makes a ton of sense, really- even fits complexity theory well.

 

[TheBEast]

Way cool.....

 

[HowieT2]

Instead of slowing most people down to 55, how about if everyone just drove 65?? :idea:

I think the point is for everyone to travel at a moderate sustainable speed. This obviously differs by location, but generally, it is counterproductive to speed up excessively only to have to slow down at a bottleneck.

 

[riverc0il]

That's highway socialism!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Makes total sense and I am surprised it has not been tried before. Obviously, only preferred when there is serious traffic considerations at hand that effect all drivers over a long distance.

 

[bvibert]

I think the point is for everyone to travel at a moderate sustainable speed. This obviously differs by location, but generally, it is counterproductive to speed up excessively only to have to slow down at a bottleneck.

I understand that, but I don't think the 65 is speeding up excessively, especially if everyone else is traveling at the same speed. You'd accomplish the same reduction in traffic, people would just get there even faster. The problem is getting some people to maintain 65 (where it's permitted). For every person that has trouble maintaining 65 I bet there's just as many people that you'd have trouble keeping to 55.

 

[Black Phantom]

Significantly less reaction time for every 10mph increase in speed. How much faster do you really arrive at your destination by speeding? 2-4 minutes? Obviously greater distance = increased time savings. Don't stop for a leak.

 

[bvibert]

Sometimes that 2-4 minutes is all you need.

Besides, I'm not talking about speeding. Most sections of highway are suitable for maintaining 65 MPH.

 

[AdironRider]

Most trucks cant maintain 55 let alone 65. They are the issue, not so much the regular cars and trucks on the road. (This is strictly in reference to I-70 out of Denver to Vail).

The point of the exercise is to limit the amount of vehicles in total on the road, so they pulse them with police escorts. That way when a truck inevitably bogs down, there arent a million other cars right behind it to jam up.

Ive heard mixed reports on the effectiveness of this, but its better than nothing.

They need to just sack up and blast another tunnell and add a couple lanes. Thats the only way to fix it. Not some train, or pulsing, or whatever.

 

[mondeo]

I think the point is for everyone to travel at a moderate sustainable speed. This obviously differs by location, but generally, it is counterproductive to speed up excessively only to have to slow down at a bottleneck.

The problem is with the people that go slow, not that those that go fast. This is admitting defeat to the idiots instead of fixing how they drive. There need to be more tickets for impeding the flow of traffic.

 

[ALLSKIING]

Most trucks cant maintain 55 let alone 65. They are the issue, not so much the regular cars and trucks on the road. (This is strictly in reference to I-70 out of Denver to Vail).

The point of the exercise is to limit the amount of vehicles in total on the road, so they pulse them with police escorts. That way when a truck inevitably bogs down, there arent a million other cars right behind it to jam up.

Ive heard mixed reports on the effectiveness of this, but its better than nothing.

They need to just sack up and blast another tunnell and add a couple lanes. Thats the only way to fix it. Not some train, or pulsing, or whatever.

All trucks can maintain 55 and up...18 wheelers can do over 100mph if they override the computers. Again, its the drivers not the vehicle.

 

[wa-loaf]

All trucks can maintain 55 and up...18 wheelers can do over 100mph if they override the computers. Again, its the drivers not the vehicle.

Not going up some of the inclines on I70 ...

 

[bvibert]

The problem is with the people that go slow, not that those that go fast. This is admitting defeat to the idiots instead of fixing how they drive. There need to be more tickets for impeding the flow of traffic.

This

 

[bvibert]

Not going up some of the inclines on I70 ...

This article was in reference to I70, but they also mentioned trying it in other areas, and using it as a general means to relieving traffic.

 

[HowieT2]

The problem is with the people that go slow, not that those that go fast. This is admitting defeat to the idiots instead of fixing how they drive. There need to be more tickets for impeding the flow of traffic.

The results of the experiment are to the contrary. You can argue that it's due to the funneling effect of the tunnel and therefore not widely applicable, but the results don't agree with that.

 

[bigbog]

EDITED: Well here's where I guess I'll come off as labeling drivers...
So many people just can't handle their vehicles in difficult conditions or at their speed they're traveling...and there's most always a greater chance of an accident happenning when someone thinks that the best defense is a great offense....
$.01

 

[snoseek]

We'll see if this does anything to help the traffic on that road. Honestly they need to figure something out because its silly on 70 way too much of the time. In theory this would make sense I guess. Really they need cheap mass transit like busses, a new tunnel, a train, or a toll. The taxpayers don't agree on any of those options so it just seems to get worse and worse. Even the frontage roads are a shitshow sometimes. I'm soooo glad I will not be commuting that road this winter!

Oh and you can go ahead and blame drivers all you want but honestly a truck going up Georgetown hill will be crawling 1/4 way up. This is a big part of the problem. 70 is a major trucking route along with hordes of complete retards with bald tires on their cars trying to pass those trucks and spinning out. Another tunnel is still a temp fix IMO. They need another way to easily pass through the mtns. 285 could be upgraded into a faster road.

 

[Geoff]

The point of the exercise is to limit the amount of vehicles in total on the road, so they pulse them with police escorts.

That's not the point at all.

The police escort slowing the traffic down to 55 mph increases the number of vehicles that can be on the road at the same time since the separation between cars is less.

 

[Geoff]

Not going up some of the inclines on I70 ...

The congestion problem is on Sundays going down the hill to Denver since everybody leaves the ski area at the same time. You don't have many long uphill stretches at the passes headed eastbound.