Receiver Announces that Burke has a Stalking Horse Bid and Deal will Close by End of 2024

[AdironRider]

Well 99 out of 100 people's preference is to not do that and they go somewhere else other than Burke to ski groomers.

 

[deadheadskier]

Well 99 out of 100 people's preference is to not do that and they go somewhere else other than Burke to ski groomers.

Fuck it man, you're right. Let's just close down all the mountains that aren't a major resort.

Don't you have a pass to Dartmouth? Same fucking thing. Might as well shut it down.

Again, in the right hands it could become a moderately successful place like a Saddleback. Like a Saddleback, it probably will need an investor that's got a passion for that kind of place and not looking to become Bob Katz rich.

Have you ever even rode there? It's a really good mountain. Better than Loon and WV by a long shot when they have the snow.

But you do you Captain Contrarian. You must be a blast to hang out with at parties.

 

[thetrailboss]

Again, in the right hands it could become a moderately successful place like a Saddleback. Like a Saddleback, it probably will need an investor that's got a passion for that kind of place and not looking to become Bob Katz rich.

"It's Rob. Not Bob, you asshole!"

(And bonus points for ME for appearing in a Burke thread! You can't escape me!)

 

[jimmywilson69]

That's undoubtedly the photo that hangs above his fire place. That he stands and stares at with a gas fire burning and sipping on his over priced pappy van winkle that he bought on the secondary market to sound cool to his millionaire buddies.

 

[AdironRider]

Fuck it man, you're right. Let's just close down all the mountains that aren't a major resort.

Don't you have a pass to Dartmouth? Same fucking thing. Might as well shut it down.

Again, in the right hands it could become a moderately successful place like a Saddleback. Like a Saddleback, it probably will need an investor that's got a passion for that kind of place and not looking to become Bob Katz rich.

Have you ever even rode there? It's a really good mountain. Better than Loon and WV by a long shot when they have the snow.

But you do you Captain Contrarian. You must be a blast to hang out with at parties.

Wait, I'm the contrarian for saying a place that has never had robust visitation and went bankrupt three times doesn't have robust visitation and is a bad investment? Ok guy.

I would say you should check out Dartmouth sometime, because if you did you would see it literally packed with families and kids having fun pretty much daily after 2pm and every weekend, but you really work the asshole vibe and wouldn't fit in.

 

[deadheadskier]

You really work the asshole vibe and wouldn't fit in.

Please help me learn how to be a kinder, softer human being so I can fit in at Dartmouth, Mr Rogers

 

[thetrailboss]

That's undoubtedly the photo that hangs above his fire place. That he stands and stares at with a gas fire burning and sipping on his over priced pappy van winkle that he bought on the secondary market to sound cool to his millionaire buddies.

Hey, with the weird liquor laws in Utah and price controls, we can get Pappy Van Winkle at a relatively low price.

 

[Big Wave Dave]

It’s about an hour between the two.

This. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional or drives like an asshat.

Fuck it man, you're right. Let's just close down all the mountains that aren't a major resort.

Don't you have a pass to Dartmouth? Same fucking thing. Might as well shut it down.

Again, in the right hands it could become a moderately successful place like a Saddleback. Like a Saddleback, it probably will need an investor that's got a passion for that kind of place and not looking to become Bob Katz rich.

Have you ever even rode there? It's a really good mountain. Better than Loon and WV by a long shot when they have the snow.

But you do you Captain Contrarian. You must be a blast to hang out with at parties.

No way he’s ever been to Burke. The comment about all the kids and families at Dartmouth was the final tell. Burke is bustling with kids and families. And I’m not even considering the BMA programs.

 

[Zand]

The argument is that Jay is only 20-30 minutes further than Burke, not 20-30 minutes from Burke. Burke is about 15 minutes from the Lyndonville exit. Jay is about 50. So Jay is about 35 minutes further than Burke.

More importantly, Jay is almost an hour closer to Montreal.

 

[deadheadskier]

I wouldn't expect people to travel past Jay from Montreal to get to Burke. But as the population in greater Boston on up the 3 and 93 corridors to Concord continues to grow and grow and along with it the crowding at places like Sunapee and Loon becomes worse and worse, Burke should be able to build their business with the right marketing and investment in the skiing product. Just need the right ownership. It appears to be working for Saddleback. This is after being mothballed for half a decade. I see no reason the same thing can't happen at Burke.

 

[Newpylong]

Wait, I'm the contrarian for saying a place that has never had robust visitation and went bankrupt three times doesn't have robust visitation and is a bad investment? Ok guy.

I would say you should check out Dartmouth sometime, because if you did you would see it literally packed with families and kids having fun pretty much daily after 2pm and every weekend, but you really work the asshole vibe and wouldn't fit in.

There aren't enough families and kids having fun because the Skiway loses to the tune of $500,000-600,000 per year and would not exist without the college picking up the deficit.

 

[deadheadskier]

From a marketing perspective, as much as I hate them, I'd put a billboard right off Exit 32. "Show up with your Season Pass from any mountain and ski 1 day for $50." Do the same campaign online with social media. When they redeem, give them a coupon for $75 to use another time. The problem with Burke is not enough people have been there to see just how good of a mountain it is. Get enough people to experience it on a Saturday and see what a better experience it is than the shit show Loon is and you probably build a more regular clientele. I think the year SB reopened, they were doing 3 packs for $149.

 

[Edd]

I perceive Burke as barely marketing the mountain at all, because I never see any. And I'm the guy they should be marketing to. It's so weird.

 

[thetrailboss]

From a marketing perspective, as much as I hate them, I'd put a billboard right off Exit 32. "Show up with your Season Pass from any mountain and ski 1 day for $50." Do the same campaign online with social media. When they redeem, give them a coupon for $75 to use another time. The problem with Burke is not enough people have been there to see just how good of a mountain it is. Get enough people to experience it on a Saturday and see what a better experience it is than the shit show Loon is and you probably build a more regular clientele. I think the year SB reopened, they were doing 3 packs for $149.

The truth is that they already run a great "bring a season pass from another mountain" deal that has no blackouts and is $65.00. And TBT their main marketing woman left last season and is now at Sugarloaf. So the JV team is now doing the marketing.

Other Mountain Pass (NO BLACKOUTS): Pass holder of another mountain? Great! Even though we would love to call you our own, Burke welcomes all skiers and riders and will even reward you for your "other Mountain" pass holder status. Purchase winter lift tickets all season long for just $65 per person.

Day Tickets

Day Tickets | Burke Mountain Resort

skiburke.com

And I take it that nobody here saw this? It's a 30-minute or so promo that Ski Journal did again this season. Basically an infomercial.

Why Burke Mountain is a hidden gem - New England Ski Journal

Explore why Burke Mountain, in the northeast corner of Vermont, is a hidden gem on the New England ski scene.

www.skijournal.com

 

[thetrailboss]

There aren't enough families and kids having fun because the Skiway loses to the tune of $500,000-600,000 per year and would not exist without the college picking up the deficit.

Same with the Middlebury Snow Bowl. Both are facilities that are needed for the respective ski teams and are considered a cost of having a ski team.

 

[Big Wave Dave]

The argument is that Jay is only 20-30 minutes further than Burke, not 20-30 minutes from Burke. Burke is about 15 minutes from the Lyndonville exit. Jay is about 50. So Jay is about 35 minutes further than Burke.

More importantly, Jay is almost an hour closer to Montreal.

50 miles 25 of which are in poorly maintained state highways with constant snow. Jay is at least an hour from Lyndonville.

I wouldn't expect people to travel past Jay from Montreal to get to Burke. But as the population in greater Boston on up the 3 and 93 corridors to Concord continues to grow and grow and along with it the crowding at places like Sunapee and Loon becomes worse and worse, Burke should be able to build their business with the right marketing and investment in the skiing product. Just need the right ownership. It appears to be working for Saddleback. This is after being mothballed for half a decade. I see no reason the same thing can't happen at Burke.

this. It’s right there for someone to build Burke up to do this. The NH “ski 93” experience is not a great one, especially On weekends. A lot more people in Southern NH these days than even 2016 when the fraud broke.

 

[deadheadskier]

The truth is that they already run a great "bring a season pass from another mountain" deal that has no blackouts and is $65.00. And TBT their main marketing woman left last season and is now at Sugarloaf. So the JV team is now doing the marketing.

Day Tickets

Day Tickets | Burke Mountain Resort

skiburke.com

And I take it that nobody here saw this? It's a 30-minute or so promo that Ski Journal did again this season. Basically an infomercial.

Why Burke Mountain is a hidden gem - New England Ski Journal

Explore why Burke Mountain, in the northeast corner of Vermont, is a hidden gem on the New England ski scene.

www.skijournal.com

Never heard that. They should be blasting that all of Social Media. Hell, tell every employee to make a post about it on the various eastern based ski groups

 

[thetrailboss]

Never heard that. They should be blasting that all of Social Media. Hell, tell every employee to make a post about it on the various eastern based ski groups

Yeah, as I said, the marketing department now is the JV team. No offense intended. And the Receiver has tried to keep their expenses low. That plays into it as well. It looks like they put their marketing $$$$ into Ski Journal. So if folks here don't know about it, then certainly the general public does not.

 

[thetrailboss]