skinning?

[skiadikt]

maybe a silly question but do people put skins on alpine skis? since your heel doesn't come out of alpine bindings, is it really all that useful? on my hike up killington yesterday ran into a telemarker who was skinning up the mtn with ease. as i was bootpacking my way up the mtn, he told i should 'get skins for those things". next time ... any info appreciated.

 

[SkiDork]

adikt, you gotta get those bindings that unclip at the heel (like laseranimal has). Otherwise they're pretty worthless on a normal alpine setup. Just dedicate one pair of skis to early and late season hiking and mount those bindings on them

 

[skiadikt]

so you're still attached to the bindings but the back end of the binding detaches from the skis? what kind of bindings are they?

 

[dmc]

so you're still attached to the bindings but the back end of the binding detaches from the skis? what kind of bindings are they?

http://www.atskis.com/istar.asp?a=6&id=101264!bla01&csurl=/istar.asp?a=29&manufacturer=fri01&

 

[SkiDork]

Fritschi Freeride

http://www.marmotmountain.com/MMWmain.asp?Option=Detail&StyleID=10007703

 

[SkiDork]

here's a bunch more models:

http://www.offpiste.com/Pages/atbindings.html

 

[skiadikt]

thanks guys.

 

[dmc]

Of course you should get AT Boots to go with those skis.....

 

[TheMadBrit]

Randonee

Otherwise know as Randonee bindings. I use those shown above but I still ski normal Alpine when they are fixed down. As DMC says, you will want AT Boots. The skins are pretty easy to set up and there is a video on the Black Diamond site on how to do it if all else fails!

 

[SkiDork]

AT boot link?

 

[dmc]

Otherwise know as Randonee bindings.

Randonee... Is the French word for "Can't tele"

 

[bvibert]

AT boot link?

Here's one example:
http://www.backcountry.com/store/GA...lpine-Touring-Ski-Boot-Mens.html?id=XYy7RanQ&

 

[TheMadBrit]

AT Boots

AT boot link?

Here you go:

http://www.backcountry.com/store/group/22/c1/s3/Alpine-Touring-Boots.html

I have Scarpa Matrix which are great, but I am not sure if they make them any more....

 

[TheMadBrit]

Randonee... Is the French word for "Can't tele"

Hey, God fixed our feet to the lower part of our legs using ankles for a reason :grin:

 

[David Metsky]

Randonee... Is the French word for "Can't tele"

The standard response is - Telemark is Norwegian for "Wait for me at the bottom!"

-dave- (Pinhead since 1988 )

 

[TheMadBrit]

The standard response is - Telemark is Norwegian for "Wait for me at the bottom!"

-dave- (Pinhead since 1988)

I like it :lol:

 

[dmc]

The standard response is - Telemark is Norwegian for "Wait for me at the bottom!"

-dave- (Pinhead since 1988 )

yup...

-doug (Pinhead since... a couple years ago...)

 

[JD]

I wouldn't recomend AT boots unless you are really touring. The Vibrime sole won't release as smoothly, and they tend to not really cant to ski agressively. Your alpine boots will work just fine in the Freerides or the Naxos. JMHO after using the Freerides for a season.

 

[skiadikt]

I wouldn't recomend AT boots unless you are really touring. The Vibrime sole won't release as smoothly, and they tend to not really cant to ski agressively. Your alpine boots will work just fine in the Freerides or the Naxos. JMHO after using the Freerides for a season.

ok so no problem using the freerides with traditional alpine boots and you were to get in 3 laps in 4 hrs this morning. i'm sold ... i did have some questions. are they heavier than traditional alpine bindings. also i was reading that some folks have a problem with the ramp angle or delta. lastly, what skis do you have them mounted on. thanks.

 

[kbroderick]

I wouldn't recomend AT boots unless you are really touring. The Vibrime sole won't release as smoothly, and they tend to not really cant to ski agressively. Your alpine boots will work just fine in the Freerides or the Naxos. JMHO after using the Freerides for a season.

For what it's worth, the top-end boots from Garmont (Adrenalin and Endorphin) have interchangeable soles--you can put DIN soles on them if you prefer. I think one of the other brands does this as well (perhaps the Struktura?), although I'm not 100% sure.

What do you mean by "tend to not really cant to ski aggressively"? The alignment, fit, and flex of the Adrenalins and Endorphins seemed more than adequate for aggressive skiing when I tried them on; they're certainly a lot stiffer than the boots I've been using.