Smugglers Notch lift opinions

[BenedictGomez]

I thought you were supposed to be a moderator on this site not a shit stirrer.

Just calling it like I see it. You've got a crappy attitude.

You're both correct. Now stop fighting.

 

[thetrailboss]

The shuttle still is quicker, but that's a function of how close Morse & Madonna are. I dont think it's a big deal to take the lift up Morse and ski to Madonna I/II when I'm slopeside.

Food at Smuggs is still somewhat "meh" as you say, mostly due to lack of options. Green Tomatoes is very good food for lunch though, I'd recommend that, but the on-mountain apres ski restaurant food is just okay. The Morse Grill restaurant's decent. Not bad, not stellar. I've never eaten at the Smuggs' pizza parlor, because I'm from New Jersey. And I've never actually eaten in the "high-end" on-mountain Smuggs restaurant (Hearth & Candle) either, because the prices were like Manhattan, which I think is stupid, and the fact I thought it might be "high-risk" so to speak. When I'm staying at Smuggs and want a very nice meal, I go to 158 Main. Very good food.

The newest condos are higher up the hill you go on Morse, they're not bad at all. The base inventory is the oldest, and some of the "non-repairs" are penny-wise and pound foolish. Actually, I'd classify some of them as completely ridiculous. For instance, in the Hakone building, the stairwell carpets are worn out so bad in spots it reaches the concrete. EVERYONE staying in that building will see that. So that's a cheap repair and it's on management. Not that I give a ratz azz, I'm there to ski. Just as long as the obvious spendthrift lack of repairs doesnt include the lifts, I'm happy.

Can someone who is more in the "know" confirm that Smuggs is still owned and run by the same ownership that existed decades ago?

 

[WWF-VT]

Can someone who is more in the "know" confirm that Smuggs is still owned and run by the same ownership that existed decades ago?

http://www.smuggs.com/pages/universal/corporate/officers.php

William P. Stritzler, Managing Director, has been with Smugglers’ Notch since 1987

 

[thetrailboss]

http://www.smuggs.com/pages/universal/corporate/officers.php

William P. Stritzler, Managing Director, has been with Smugglers’ Notch since 1987

Interesting. Not only did he go to my alma mater, but he bought Smuggs from the previous owner in 1996:

http://www.smuggs.com/pages/universal/corporate/history.php

So it is a different owner than I was thinking, but one who has been there a long time. I wonder if he will sell at some point soon?

 

[VTKilarney]

They can always throttle a high speed quad on days when capacity would be an issue. On weekdays it would sure make things a LOT nicer.

On the other hand, it's more frustrating to have a throttled high speed quad than no high speed quad at all.

 

[cdskier]

I've never eaten at the Smuggs' pizza parlor, because I'm from New Jersey.

What does one have to do with the other? I'm from NJ and honestly have had pizza in VT at several places that beat most of the pizzerias around where I live in northern NJ. I'm not saying Smuggs' pizza parlor is like that, but being from NJ won't stop me from at least trying pizza in VT. Pizza Soul in Sugarbush Village kicks the ass of just about any local pizzeria in my area of NJ. American Flatbread is also a whole other level of pizza. Pie in the Sky in Stowe was great as well, although I heard they've since closed.

 

[MadMadWorld]

God dammit people. The best argument I have heard is a triple
...I like that idea. A HSQ is not going to work. In the brief spots where Madonna I runs higher than 10-15 ft off the ground it sucks. They did a survey to add a lift from the top of Madonna II to where the turn for Catwalk is and it was nixed because the wind was awful. The top of Madonna is one big rocky ledge. They had to blast so much rock just to make Chilcoot. The expert terrain can not handle the increased traffic. This isn't Killington!

I would not be upset if they upgraded Sterling to a HSQ. It has a lot more routes from the top, not nearly as rocky, and has the snowmaking infrastructure. Sterling can be as fun and has plenty of tree skiing that can rival Madonna. Plus who wouldn't want to do high speed laps of the BB.

 

[yeggous]

What does one have to do with the other? I'm from NJ and honestly have had pizza in VT at several places that beat most of the pizzerias around where I live in northern NJ. I'm not saying Smuggs' pizza parlor is like that, but being from NJ won't stop me from at least trying pizza in VT. Pizza Soul in Sugarbush Village kicks the ass of just about any local pizzeria in my area of NJ. American Flatbread is also a whole other level of pizza. Pie in the Sky in Stowe was great as well, although I heard they've since closed.

Flatbread is a chain that can be had anywhere in New England, and some locations beyond.


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[moresnow]

What does one have to do with the other? I'm from NJ and honestly have had pizza in VT at several places that beat most of the pizzerias around where I live in northern NJ. I'm not saying Smuggs' pizza parlor is like that, but being from NJ won't stop me from at least trying pizza in VT.

That's unpossible.

 

[MadMadWorld]

How's that?

One way as opposed to two.

60% snowmaking coverage.

Does Wildcat have a problem running a HSQ on one of the windiest mountains in New England?

There is no excuse except for no investment.

Wildcat blows straight up or straight down depending on the day. It sucks to ski in but the lift runs pretty well. Wind on Madonna runs left to right (if you are riding up the lift) almost always.

 

[deadheadskier]

Flatbread is a chain that can be had anywhere in New England, and some locations beyond.


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It's actually a different ownership group

VT American Flatbread:

http://americanflatbread.com/

vs the one you're probably thinking about

http://www.flatbreadcompany.com/


I have not tried the VT restaurants.

 

[steamboat1]

God dammit people. The best argument I have heard is a triple
...I like that idea. A HSQ is not going to work. In the brief spots where Madonna I runs higher than 10-15 ft off the ground it sucks

Wouldn't suck any worse with a fixed grip quad. Might even suck less with a carpet loaded quad that gets you off the lift faster. Who puts in a triple now days anyway? Yeah I know West Mt. but seriously.

 

[steamboat1]

Being from Brooklyn I have no comment on VT. pizza. Might get slandered if I do, right DHS.

 

[cdskier]

It's actually a different ownership group

VT American Flatbread:

http://americanflatbread.com/

vs the one you're probably thinking about

http://www.flatbreadcompany.com/


I have not tried the VT restaurants.

Yea, the VT American Flatbread is the original and the one I'm referring to. Not only is the food amazing, but the whole vibe at the Waitsfield location is awesome. It can be 5 degrees out in the middle of winter and people will be hanging out around the fire pit outside drinking wine or beer telling stories about that day's adventures on the slopes while waiting for their name to be called.

 

[thetrailboss]

Yea, the VT American Flatbread is the original and the one I'm referring to. Not only is the food amazing, but the whole vibe at the Waitsfield location is awesome. It can be 5 degrees out in the middle of winter and people will be hanging out around the fire pit outside drinking wine or beer telling stories about that day's adventures on the slopes while waiting for their name to be called.

+1.

Met my wife on a date to the American Flat Bread in BTV.


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[Smellytele]

What happened to the ticket price discussion? this is either a thread on Smuggs or pizza now.

 

[moresnow]

What happened to the ticket price discussion? this is either a thread on Smuggs or pizza now.

mmmm pizza

If I had to pick one food to eat forever, I'd probably pick pizza.

 

[Smellytele]

mmmm pizza

If I had to pick one food to eat forever, I'd probably pick pizza.

It would be a great choice. I can eat it 3 meals a day!

 

[deadheadskier]

Being from Brooklyn I have no comment on VT. pizza. Might get slandered if I do, right DHS.

I prefer New Haven

http://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/foodnews/101-best-pizzas-in-america-2015/ss-BBlsX4K#image=102

 

[cdskier]

What happened to the ticket price discussion? this is either a thread on Smuggs or pizza now.

Need something to talk about while waiting for more areas to post their new prices! :grin: Sugarbush doesn't post their new ticket prices until October.