Steepest Groomers

[Greg]

FIS is so short though..4-5 big GS turns and it's over..

I want to see 4-5 big GS turns when it's bumped.

Speed is so overrated.

 

[Newpylong]

I think you are talking about Ripcord at Mt. Snow. I've never been there. I was talking about The Rumor at Gore.

Yes I am.. I was saying I agree with you about the Rumor, and that Ripcord is similar. Short, very steep and bumped up outside of a few times a year.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I want to see 4-5 big GS turns when it's bumped.

Speed is so overrated.

I mean when it's groomed..when bumped I'll take Black Diamond anyday for better snow and cheers and jeers from the lift..

 

[thetrailboss]

I want to see 4-5 big GS turns when it's bumped.

Speed is so overrated.

GSS: 4-5 GS turns? :blink: You would be flying at that pace....

Only question is if those are "mandatory" GS turns? :wink:

 

[deadheadskier]

GSS: 4-5 GS turns? :blink: You would be flying at that pace....

Only question is if those are "mandatory" GS turns? :wink:

wonder if he carried that pace down to the run out on lower if he'd have to skate at all :lol:


I've actually never skied lower because of what a PITA I've heard the run/walk out is.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

GSS: 4-5 GS turns? :blink: You would be flying at that pace....

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Thats the point of steep groomers..not to make..1,000 doodly turns..I know it's not in the east but Sundance at Jackson Hole is divine,,,2740 vert but the last couple hundred vert is runout back to the Gondola..20 Super Super GS turns with a tuck to the flats and my helmet whistles like a mo-fo..a couple of those when the lifts open on a hardpack day is great..5 in an hour is very easy to do with no line....Skiing fast on groomers is a guilty pleasure of mine like 80s music and fat chicks..lol

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

wonder if he carried that pace down to the run out on lower if he'd have to skate at all :lol:


I've actually never skied lower because of what a PITA I've heard the run/walk out is.

I wouldn't be comfortable with that kind of speed on lower FIS and especially not the runout which is like Mr. Toads wild ride..the slog out is only a few minutes..maybe 1/2 mile of poling and skating tops..It's not like the bottom of Nosedive where you can just coast to the quad..I like the part of lower FIS where it crosses under the Slidebrook..

 

[danny p]

The book is titled "The Great Vermont Ski Chase: The Definitive Guide to Vermont Skiing." (2005) by Karen D. Lorentz. Haven't really read that much of it but I thought the stuff on gradient of different slopes was interesting. She lists the gradients of a bunch of trails. What's not clear is how long the section is that's being described. For example, Paradise is listed at 89% (almost 42 degrees) and then later examples are given like Hayride ranging from 25 - 35 degrees.

thanks for the info. i'm psyched to read another Lorentz book.

 

[snow*angel]

sorry thetrailboss but i really don't think your pictures are all that steep. Magic's broomstick and sorcer i think are steeper, the rest are to steep to groom!

 

[kcyanks1]

The waterfall aside (yeah, I know, you can't just ignore it), I think The Rumor's headwall is steeper than Paradise, at least the main trail of Paradise.

+1. Also, There is a video on the Mount Snow website http://www.mountsnow.com/video.html#

and they brought the camera in the groomer while they winched the Ripcord. Funny stuff. They took the part out where the cat went sideways for a bit.

I think you are talking about Ripcord at Mt. Snow. I've never been there. I was talking about The Rumor at Gore.

Yes I am.. I was saying I agree with you about the Rumor, and that Ripcord is similar. Short, very steep and bumped up outside of a few times a year.

Got it As I said, I've never been to Mt. Snow. Is Ripcord really as steep as The Rumor or just similar in that it's very short and not really a "groomer"?

 

[thetrailboss]

sorry thetrailboss but i really don't think your pictures are all that steep. Magic's broomstick and sorcer i think are steeper, the rest are to steep to groom!

They are quite deceptive....and by the way, the title of the thread is "steepest groomers," so I was trying to focus on that. There are many runs that are steeper (Zitz Mark at the Lyndon Outing Club...random I know...Rumble...Tuckerman Chutes on Jay, etc). But no snowcat can tame those beasts. :wink:

 

[Greg]

sorry thetrailboss but i really don't think your pictures are all that steep. Magic's broomstick and sorcer i think are steeper, the rest are to steep to groom!

Broomstick is not at all steep. Sorceror has nice pitch, but not one I'd consider overly steep either.

 

[SIKSKIER]

I want to see 4-5 big GS turns when it's bumped.

Speed is so overrated.

Words usually spoken by skiers who can't handle speed.Let me see you ski at Bode's speed and see if it's overated.

 

[RISkier]

Words usually spoken by skiers who can't handle speed.Let me see you ski at Bode's speed and see if it's overated.

We were at Snowbird last year. Parts of the men's downhill course was impressively steep. Steeper than I would have imagined. The thought of skating out of a gate, tucking, and going straight down at the top sent chills down my spine. I'm going to turn and I'm going to turn often.

 

[Greg]

Words usually spoken by skiers who can't handle speed.Let me see you ski at Bode's speed and see if it's overated.

Wow. You can ski at Bode speed? :-o Cool. No doubt that I can't handle speed. And I'm fine with that.

 

[drjeff]

We were at Snowbird last year. Parts of the men's downhill course was impressively steep. Steeper than I would have imagined. The thought of skating out of a gate, tucking, and going straight down at the top sent chills down my spine. I'm going to turn and I'm going to turn often.

Snowbird or Snowbasin?? I was at Snowbasin the week after the 2002 Olympics ended. They were holding the disabled olympic skiing events there then. I skied out of the start house for the Grizzly (the name of the mens downhill course) which at that point with world cup hard snow with only a couple of inches of fluff on top was SLICK. The first pitch out of that start house is STEEP (the racers were going from 0 to roughly 80 in the first 5-6 seconds!) My wife and I get down to the bottom after making some slightly tenative slalom turns on the surface. We turn around and look back up, and theres a 1 legged para-olympian straightlining the pitch on his way down to the women's olympic course (the wildflower) which the paraolympians were running that day!

That top headwall of The Grizzly at Snowbasin is as steep(if not steeper) than any groomer in the East!

 

[ctenidae]

Wow. You can ski at Bode speed? :-o Cool.

Everyone can.

For a little while.

Until a tree gets in the way.

 

[RISkier]

My bad, it was at Snowbasin.

 

[Newpylong]

Got it As I said, I've never been to Mt. Snow. Is Ripcord really as steep as The Rumor or just similar in that it's very short and not really a "groomer"?

Steeper... but a bit shorter.

 

[thetrailboss]

Wow....considering how much I hear folks in this thread say, "I hate steep groomers," this thread is sure getting a lot of attention....