Stenger and Quiros Ousted from Management of Jay Peak and Burke

[machski]

Maybe all this on the Tram. That said, it got new cabins and carriage arms with it back in 2000. It is possible the new cabs and arms were heavier designs than the original lattice arms and cabins. Add the water tank issue, this could be a recent issue and the article got it wrong. I don't think it's an overall system issue, doesn't sound like the track ropes, towers or track rope anchor points are in question. Just the carriage and electrics (the electrics are strange, thought those were upgraded in 2000 a S well)

 

[zoomzoom]

"Of greater concern to us is the condition of the carriages," { Doppelmayr's president, Mark } Bee wrote in his letter. "To our knowledge there are no records to indicate that the carriages have been subject to regular and thorough [non-destructive testing] inspections."

you fellas do know what a carriage is?

 

[tumbler]

"Of greater concern to us is the condition of the carriages," { Doppelmayr's president, Mark } Bee wrote in his letter. "To our knowledge there are no records to indicate that the carriages have been subject to regular and thorough [non-destructive testing] inspections."

This is interesting. I don't know how it would be able to pass state inspection without NDT. Maybe it is different criteria for a tram than a lift where a certain number of grips and componants need to be tested and reported each year

 

[zoomzoom]

a tram is a bit different from a chairlift in the number of carriers involved, however there are specific manufacturer's requirements for the carriage (rope gripping device) that must be met.

it would only take an investigative reporter from "digger" 1/2 hour of looking at past annual inspection reports kept on file in montpelier to ascertain what happened in the past. would the feces would hit the rotating / oscillating device if published?

 

[from_the_NEK]

Interesting that Newport and Jay have the two highest estimated growth rates in Vermont.

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/...ost-vermont-towns-losing-population/84898038/

 

[thetrailboss]

Interesting that Newport and Jay have the two highest estimated growth rates in Vermont.

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/...ost-vermont-towns-losing-population/84898038/

[Or had]

 

[BenedictGomez]

The numbers for Orleans County are a bit odd. Only Jay and Newport have more residents today than in 2010 — if you believe the Census estimates. I don’t. The statisticians at the Census Bureau claim that the Town of Jay has 43 more people than in 2015. That may be true, but if it is, it means Jay’s 8.3 percent growth rate makes it the third fastest growing town in Vermont. That’s hard to believe for a town in a county where every other place except one has lost population. Even more unusual are the statistics for the Town of Newport. Its population grew by 49 percent from 2010 to 2015, making it by far the fastest growing town in the state, and possibly one of the fastest growing in the nation.

This guy sure isn't a threat to mathematically plug any of the holes in Einstein's Theory of Relativity.

 

[BenedictGomez]

On a serious note:

But that depopulation meant that large numbers of Vermonters were leaving the state in search of better opportunities elsewhere. I don’t think we want to revisit that experience in the 21st century.

This is only going to get worse, not better.

 

[thetrailboss]

On a serious note:



This is only going to get worse, not better.

There was a story on BBC World Radio the other day talking about Vancouver's issues with housing costs. Take out some of the place names and it easily could have been about Vermont. Second home buyers pushing up prices, market not building any new low or middle housing stock, cost of living issues, demographic changes resulting, companies unable to expand because of lack of young skilled workers, etc.

I sound like a broken record on the issue. A lot of folks "get it" in Vermont, but those that could do something do not or just do not want to do anything about it.

 

[steamboat1]

People are fleeing high tax states with VT. being one of them.

 

[Edd]

Second home buyers pushing up prices, market not building any new low or middle housing stock.

Saw a story on PBS just a couple of days ago about home inventory being short nationwide, pushing up prices. For new builds, the focus continues to be on the high end of things.

 

[BenedictGomez]

I sound like a broken record on the issue. A lot of folks "get it" in Vermont, but those that could do something do not or just do not want to do anything about it.

My gf's high school reunion was cancelled, and it seems the most likely reason is simply because there are so few "Vermonters" actually living in Vermont.

People are fleeing high tax states with VT. being one of them.

Yup. New Jersey is even worse. People are fleeing here like you wouldnt believe - eastern PA has become a western boomtown with all the Jerseyans hopping over the river.

 

[deadheadskier]

High taxes is only one factor. Taxachusetts is booming. Unprecedented growth within the 495 belt. If you have great higher education facilities it helps. It's often better to move your company to where the new talent is than try and lure that talent to another location.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Saw a story on PBS just a couple of days ago about home inventory being short nationwide, pushing up prices. For new builds, the focus continues to be on the high end of things.

While this is true, it's only reporting the most happy, rosy, and totally optimistic view of things (i.e. prices are increasing, YAY!).

It's way more complicated than that.

Current economic fundamentals simply do not support current US home prices, and we are now (terrifyingly) back to October 2007 home prices on an inflation adjusted level.

This in a climate with stagnating US wages, high underemployment, record low LFPR, record high student debt levels which is impairing the key "first-time homeowners" metric, (which leads to bleedthrough to every rung of the housing pyramid), changing cultural views on home ownership by millennials, downsizing (and dying) babyboomers, a rising interest rate environment which will increase mortgage rates harming home sales, and while the banks have admittedly made REO progress, there's still historically high foreclosures and shadow inventory still lurking on bank balance sheets. Oh, and lasty? The Federal Reserve already went "all in", pushing their chips into the middle of the table, and has no additional play.

This will not end well. I personally believe Housing Bubble 2.0 is no more than 2 -4 years away.

 

[BenedictGomez]

High taxes is only one factor. Taxachusetts is booming. Unprecedented growth within the 495 belt. If you have great higher education facilities it helps. It's often better to move your company to where the new talent is than try and lure that talent to another location.

But you cant view a small area's economy and draw a broad conclusion for the economic climate of the whole area. By marrying IRS data with census data, Taxachusetts is one of the worst performers in America in terms of wealth "going away".


EDIT: Just took a look.

The only states "flight" in this regard that's worse than MA are (not in order) NY, NJ, CA, IL, OH, and MI.

 

[steamboat1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population_growth_rate

MA. is 26 on the list, VT. 49.

 

[BenedictGomez]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population_growth_rate

MA. is 26 on the list, VT. 49.

And CA is 17, with a decent 5% growth rate despite the significant $ talking a walk. Which tells you much about the folks moving in & out, and in the immortal words of Forrest Gump, "thahts uh all I'ma gonna say bout thaht".

 

[BenedictGomez]

Out of curiosity, has the cost of living in Chittendon County by any chance increased at a level which significantly exceeds that of the rest of Vermont?

 

[thetrailboss]

Saw a story on PBS just a couple of days ago about home inventory being short nationwide, pushing up prices. For new builds, the focus continues to be on the high end of things.

Yep that is true. FWIW PBS has some great news coverage of issues.

 

[steamboat1]

If you have great higher education facilities it helps. It's often better to move your company to where the new talent is than try and lure that talent to another location.

MA. & VT. are the top two states for math & science scores in the U.S.