Suicide Six name change

[2planks2coasts]

What is the story behind the name "Suicide Six".

Always seemed odd to me. Just a weird thing to market.

"When the ski area first opened in 1936, it was called Hill No. 6. But after the man who installed the original rope tow joked that “skiing the steep pitch would be suicide,” the new name stuck."

Fromhttps://www.wcax.com/2022/07/13/sui... ski area first,change the name shows empathy.

 

[BodeMiller1]

The equipment was different. Reminds me of the guy who straight - lined Tuckerman Ravine.

You get what you get when you go for it.

 

[PAabe]

I love the ring to american indian names. Lots of those around me, and the boy scouts always had camps and ceremonies with them. The people here before us are a big part of the history of this part of the world and the way I see it, I think using the names and ideas in well intentioned spirit is good to keep that part of america alive rather than fading into obscurity.

Otherwise everything is just Willow Brook or Fair Acres or New Oxbridge whatever BS faux-english place names.

Which is to say I think Saskadena Six is an awesome sounding name with a nice cadence to it

 

[machski]

I love the ring to american indian names. Lots of those around me, and the boy scouts always had camps and ceremonies with them. The people here before us are a big part of the history of this part of the world and the way I see it, I think using the names and ideas in well intentioned spirit is good to keep that part of america alive rather than fading into obscurity.

Otherwise everything is just Willow Brook or Fair Acres or New Oxbridge whatever BS faux-english place names.

Which is to say I think Saskadena Six is an awesome sounding name with a nice cadence to it

Funny you mention the Boy Scouts. I removed the OA camp outs and ceremonies, thought it was great when I was a kid. But I recall recently them taking a huge hit for utilizing Native American culture/outfits etc I'm non- NA traditions and should be stopped.

 

[PAabe]

Funny you mention the Boy Scouts. I removed the OA camp outs and ceremonies, thought it was great when I was a kid. But I recall recently them taking a huge hit for utilizing Native American culture/outfits etc I'm non- NA traditions and should be stopped.

I get the outfits are stereotypical but to me it seemed that those sorts of ceremonies were always in the utmost respect and reverence of the woods and the native peoples who lived there. Although others may see it differently

Skiing being a very aesthetic sport up in the mountains and woods, I think having locally derived names adds a lot to that

 

[thetrailboss]

I get the outfits are stereotypical but to me it seemed that those sorts of ceremonies were always in the utmost respect and reverence of the woods and the native peoples who lived there. Although others may see it differently

As an OA Member who did ceremonies in my youth, and am a Vigil Honor member, this was how I viewed it.

In speaking this weekend with a Scouter who is half-Crow Indian, he pointed out that the BSA and OA can get approval from one tribe only to have another pop up and be upset. Native Americans are not at all a monolithic social group. With this in mind, I see ceremonies going to black robes as the was done on Treasure Island with the founders. I've gotten over the loss of respectful use of regalia.

As to S6, same concern. One tribe may be happy but others may not. And while it seems like a respectful use of a Native term, isn't it still misappropriation because Native Americans did not have ski resorts?

Funny--they change the name to not offend those with mental health issues and family members who have dealt with suicide and now have waded into another area that can be a hot bed of litigation.

 

[BodeMiller1]

The Indians were a very violent clan. They signed up with the French (French - Indian War) and that in and of itself gave the colonists the right to wipe them out.

This is just the way it was around here. In Concord, N.H. there is a Monument in front of The Hospital. An Indian raiding party lynched 20 or so whites.

Good article in The Concord Sunday Monitor on Hanna Dustin...

 

[BodeMiller1]

I love the ring to american indian names. Lots of those around me, and the boy scouts always had camps and ceremonies with them. The people here before us are a big part of the history of this part of the world and the way I see it, I think using the names and ideas in well intentioned spirit is good to keep that part of america alive rather than fading into obscurity.

Otherwise everything is just Willow Brook or Fair Acres or New Oxbridge whatever BS faux-english place names.

Which is to say I think Saskadena Six is an awesome sounding name with a nice cadence to it

Yep, like your thought process. A good ski hill name:

Sugar Loaf USA now Sugar Loaf (NO U.S.A.)

And those kinds of things.

 

[thetrailboss]

This is just the way it was around here. In Concord, N.H. there is a Monument in front of The Hospital. An Indian raiding party lynched 20 or so whites.

Good article in The Concord Sunday Monitor on Hanna Dustin...

Apparently, I am a direct descendent of Hannah Dustin. So as violent as it was I am grateful that she kicked ass.

 

[BodeMiller1]

We should ski together some sunny day, I'm easier to take in real life.
When I ski, I'm ... well, I can pick'um up and lay them down.
And, snow bunny hunterer.

Some times you have to be quite other times you can't.

 

[machski]

As an OA Member who did ceremonies in my youth, and am a Vigil Honor member, this was how I viewed it.

In speaking this weekend with a Scouter who is half-Crow Indian, he pointed out that the BSA and OA can get approval from one tribe only to have another pop up and be upset. Native Americans are not at all a monolithic social group. With this in mind, I see ceremonies going to black robes as the was done on Treasure Island with the founders. I've gotten over the loss of respectful use of regalia.

As to S6, same concern. One tribe may be happy but others may not. And while it seems like a respectful use of a Native term, isn't it still misappropriation because Native Americans did not have ski resorts?

Funny--they change the name to not offend those with mental health issues and family members who have dealt with suicide and now have waded into another area that can be a hot bed of litigation.

Agree with this TB, also an OA Vigil member and viewed it the same in my youth. Still lean the same but understand the concerns. So a bit surprised with the S6 pivot, they didn't pivot to a non-controversial name that's for sure. So why bother?

 

[raisingarizona]

If it bothers you so much, you really shouldn't ski there. Wouldn't want you to compromise your ..uh...principles now, would we?

Who’s bothered?

I really don't give a damn what they call their ski area.

Cancel culture and young folks quick go to of being offended by everything that doesn't agree with their feelings is definitely dumb af.

White guilt is an extreme leftist behavior for sure. Were any of us around for this countries settlement, slavery and genocidal efforts against the Indians? Nah.

 

[thetrailboss]

"When the ski area first opened in 1936, it was called Hill No. 6. But after the man who installed the original rope tow joked that “skiing the steep pitch would be suicide,” the new name stuck."

Fromhttps://www.wcax.com/2022/07/13/suicide-six-ski-area-unveils-its-new-name/#:~:text=When the ski area first,change the name shows empathy.

Thanks. I always wondered what the backstory was.

 

[thetrailboss]

Correct me if I'm wrong, President Obama changed the name of Mt. Washington (N.H. Presidential Range) back to the native name.

That's news to me as well.

 

[BodeMiller1]

That's news to me as well.

In his first term he went on a mission to rename the peaks in The United States...

He named Washington as one on the list. It's exactly the same thing as President Reagan asking for 1,000 ICBMs. He only wanted 500 so he asked for X to get Y.

Obama To Rename Continent's Highest Peak From Mount McKinley To Denali

Efforts to change the mountain's name back to Denali date back to 1975. The White House says changing the name back "recognizes the sacred status of Denali to generations of Alaska Natives."

www.npr.org

 

[BodeMiller1]

Cannon should have to change their name like the Washington bullets did..

This is by far the best post since... Highway Star's "sliced bread leads to sliced toast" thread in 1864.

Cannon is to X
as Washington Bullets are to The Washington Capitals.

We should be able to back into HS's What Cannon should be called through sentence structure analysis. Witch [sic] I have been able to do.

The New Name for CANNON

wait for it

The New name......


CANNON

This will rock the ski industry.

Meow

 

[BodeMiller1]

I kind of like President Putin, butt he's making it hard. Communist States will always play the long game. I like to think of it like this: What if China invaded Alaska and then moved down through Canada and started taking Washington, Idaho, Oregon....

This is the position The West has put the Soviets in.

I read TASS more than I read most of the crap coming out of the West.
So, please read the link below and please explain who is pushing more misinformation.
Yea, Putin should not start a war and bomb shopping malls...
And, I know The West has the moral high - ground. Here's the problem, The Soviets (Russians) also believe they have the high - ground so we will fight a simple ground / air war in The Europe theater. There are things far worse than war.

TASS: Ukraine crisis

Ukraine crisis

tass.com

 

[KustyTheKlown]

dude what the fuck are you even on about

 

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[NYDB]

sweet blog bro!