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Sundown Moguls

Do you want a kicker built on the best part of temptor


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deadheadskier

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I was wondering why I have a killer headache today, now I know why :dunce:

I obviously need the kicker to practice my crashes. Actually I am going to be on the DL all season :cry: Having some rods and screws installed in my back next month so I can take a few more crashes like that.

I will run the camera at bump or bust if you want :-(

bummed to hear it man.

get well soon
 

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mods - add 1 to the YES vote. jake, an AZ'er by proxy and bump and bust alumni says we need the kicker.
 

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shouldn't this be open an open poll to all Azers? I mean we have to suffer through all your damn videos. At least a kicker would add to the entertainment value! :razz:
 

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shouldn't this be open an open poll to all Azers? I mean we have to suffer through all your damn videos. At least a kicker would add to the entertainment value! :razz:

ok with me as long as u vote YES. if you are voting NO then u should not be allowed to participate.
 

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Your signature left off one key factor in the impact claculation.


MASS!
But you can reasonably assume that capacity to absorb energy scales with mass. Taller people have a longer distance to absorb, heavier builds go along with stronger bones and mucles. I'd change it to body fat percentage.

Complicate that, b*tch!
read my signature BITCH!
Truly a crowning moment in my life, making it into 2knees's signature.
i don't know shit about maintaing a bump run, f*ck, i can barely ski one but temptor can easily handle 3 lines. why couldn't one of the side lines have a small kicker 3/4 way down where there is still some pitch. jeez, set it up, if no one uses it after a few weeks take it down. Brian will help.
On this subject, say, for example, there was an individual that happened to be at Sundown every frakking weeknight. What would it take to get a shovel in his hands for the bump run du mois?
pffft, that was an equipment malfunction. he nailed the 3 and if the binding didn't pop he'd have been fine.
Incidentally, the binding didn't break, it just stuck. Dial down the DIN and pop it back into position, even with the DIN below 0 (though reading 3 due to the screwed up position) it will take a decent amount of force.

That crash is a perfect example of what I was talking about as far as dangers go. Had he not landed on a bump, he'd be fine. Even if he landed on his side he probably wouldn't have sustained nearly as serious of injuries for that same size jump in a park.
i've marked up Jarrod's picture to show the optimal solution.

obviously temptor can hold 3 lines, put a kicker in the middle

line 1 + 2 for those who don't feel they need/like/want a kicker
line 3 for the rest of us.

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when u move the kickers make sure you take the one from the left side (of picture), the one on the right wasn't good last year, it made me fall.
One of the big problems with any jumps on Temptor is that, being so narrow, it'll completely bork whatever other lines exist at the point of the jump. The last bump in the #3 line shown above was a complete wall. A complete wall that cost me several hundred dollars and a trip to Killington and back the morning of the bump comp.
I obviously need the kicker to practice my crashes. Actually I am going to be on the DL all season :cry: Having some rods and screws installed in my back next month so I can take a few more crashes like that.

I will run the camera at bump or bust if you want :-(
Damn, major bummer. Here's hoping for a good recovery so you can at least make it onto the snow at some point this season.

You know us, Jarrod, blowing off a precious bump run to practice air on Stinger just ain't gonna happen. With that said, I still don't support kickers on Temptor which as you said is short enough as it is. I understand why some people want them though.

I'm going to guess they are going to be too rough to hit more often than not, especially mid-winter, and if the landings aren't maintained. I spent 20 minute once breaking up a landing so we could practice and I'm not interested in doing that again. Just not worth it IMO. A few days before the comp? Sure, stick one in there. I would support tables on the flats though and they would be easy to maintain with a cat on the bottom section.
Pssh. All you guys need to do is develop a complete lack of a life. You'll have plenty of time to mix in park runs.

The upper flats are too flat, the lower flat you might be able to get something in. Maybe a step-down, with a bunch of kick? Or even a step-up could work, force these guys to hit it with speed or be screwed.
 
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Incidentally, the binding didn't break, it just stuck. Dial down the DIN and pop it back into position, even with the DIN below 0 (though reading 3 due to the screwed up position) it will take a decent amount of force.

Actually the binding did break. I have the pieces out in my garage. Maybe I can mount them to your skis for the first comp this year. Who knows maybe I will get the ok from the doc to get on the hill a little early and school you.
 

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Actually the binding did break. I have the pieces out in my garage. Maybe I can mount them to your skis for the first comp this year. Who knows maybe I will get the ok from the doc to get on the hill a little early and school you.

That's what i talkin' bout!
 

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Actually the binding did break. I have the pieces out in my garage. Maybe I can mount them to your skis for the first comp this year. Who knows maybe I will get the ok from the doc to get on the hill a little early and school you.
Huh, I remembered it just doing the same thing mine did when I broke my wrist.

I stand corrected.
 

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without burning 6 of the 20 moguls turns on Temptor. :lol:

I missed this until now. This is my contention as well. And you arent misrepresenting the amount of turns either. I've actually counted the turns on temptor, and they always end up between 17 and 22. that's it. not worth losing 1/3rd of them for a kicker.
 

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It's not like the kicker would be all the way across the trail. :roll:

not the point.

Put a kicker on the side and it still forces a major cross cut section where everybody has to avoid the hit. And the hit will take up its own share of bumps in its line. anyway you cut it, whenever there are kickers set up, the lines arent as long or continous.

I'm in complete favor of kickers on bump trails just not in this case. trail is too short. terrain park next door.

Gunny should have at least 4, 2 side by side hits, all spring. O.L., White Heat, True Grit, Slalom Glade, you name it, they should all have them.
 

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Are Gunny and Temptor the only true options for bump runs at Sundown? Gunny looked pretty sick last spring. You really don't need more than 4-500 solid vert of bumps. Well, at least my out of shape ass doesn't. :lol:
 

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not the point.

Put a kicker on the side and it still forces a major cross cut section where everybody has to avoid the hit. And the hit will take up its own share of bumps in its line. anyway you cut it, whenever there are kickers set up, the lines arent as long or continous.
establish the kicker AFTER the bumps have been worked in so as to not infringe on the best line(s).

I'm in complete favor of kickers on bump trails just not in this case. trail is too short. terrain park next door.

i want my cake and to eat it too. not interested in wasting a run down stinger to practice a jump. i want to hit bumps "all the way" down temptor on most runs. I want to hit some bumps and then a kicker on a few runs. i then want to make a sharp right and hit the bumps on exhibition. i want to do that over and over and over in 4 hour shifts many times til March.
 

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establish the kicker AFTER the bumps have been worked in so as to not infringe on the best line(s).



i want my cake and to eat it too. not interested in wasting a run down stinger to practice a jump. i want to hit bumps "all the way" down temptor on most runs. I want to hit some bumps and then a kicker on a few runs. i then want to make a sharp right and hit the bumps on exhibition. i want to do that over and over and over in 4 hour shifts many times til March.

perfect solution. Put the kicker on the section of nor'easter they bump up or put it on the section of exhibition.

personally, i find it all too flat, but if you want a kicker, dont f up the only section of bumps we get with even a semblance of pitch.
 
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