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The Go/No Go Decision

riverc0il

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Who knows what I am talking about? Frantically digging through pages upon pages of online content and weather looking for that one report that validates your decision to drive 4+ round trip hours to go ski.

Don't get me wrong, not that I don't want to ski today. But if the natural setup poorly from the mix and the warmer weather at Jay, I ain't driving two hours each way to ski two trails worth of groomers. Conditions have been too good for frozen groomer track skiing... call me greedy.

I start reading into the weather report. When they say "it is finally cold enough to turn the snowmaking back on".... I suddenly pause and reconsider my plans. Then I read about suspect skiing at MRG and Wildcat yesterday on SkiVT-l along with powfreak staying on the groomers because the natural snow trails had frozen up day old tracks. Uh oh....

JD might say you don't know until you go. But I hate going four hours out of my way to ski two trails worth of groomers. I can be disappointed in the conditions and still have a good time but after two powder days and a ton of snow falling earlier this week, a groomer isn't going to cut it any more for four hours worth of driving. I might just as well sit tight today and head up to Cannon tomorrow which will probably offer better cruising than Jay despite getting less than half as much natural snow.

Any ways... do you get bogged down in the Go/No Go Decisions? Or do you make plans and go no matter what, frozen groomers and rain be damned? Does distance factor into the equation as it does in my example above? This question would apply to decisions not involving pre-booked lodging for which there is no option.
 

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Killington is skiing great right now. Skied 5 of the last 7 days here, including yesterday, and the skiing is great, especially off the Superstar Quad and at Snowdon.

Highline, East Fall, and Rime are a bit slick, but the rest of the open terrain is in great shape. Wax 'em up and make some turns.
 

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Thanks JerseyJoey for the off topic response! I ain't paying full price at Killington, nuff said about that. Loaf got two feet but I ain't driving 9 hours round trip when I told the Misses I'd be home for TDay Dinner. Feel free to reply to the original subject of the thread if you actually want to contribute....
 

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Going north these days takes an act of god to begin with (for me)...so, when I have a day etched in the schedule, I go regardless of the surface conditions or weather. The only things that I may change are the skis that I plan to bring and the area that I plan to ski...
 

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I know your question lilts toward the theoretical here but, knowing you, you may want to stay put. We've got two groomers and while we did get snow last week, I believe the central-sorta-north section netted out better than we did, ie, the only ones in the woods should be nervous squirrels..

Who knows what I am talking about? Frantically digging through pages upon pages of online content and weather looking for that one report that validates your decision to drive 4+ round trip hours to go ski.

Don't get me wrong, not that I don't want to ski today. But if the natural setup poorly from the mix and the warmer weather at Jay, I ain't driving two hours each way to ski two trails worth of groomers. Conditions have been too good for frozen groomer track skiing... call me greedy.

I start reading into the weather report. When they say "it is finally cold enough to turn the snowmaking back on".... I suddenly pause and reconsider my plans. Then I read about suspect skiing at MRG and Wildcat yesterday on SkiVT-l along with powfreak staying on the groomers because the natural snow trails had frozen up day old tracks. Uh oh....

JD might say you don't know until you go. But I hate going four hours out of my way to ski two trails worth of groomers. I can be disappointed in the conditions and still have a good time but after two powder days and a ton of snow falling earlier this week, a groomer isn't going to cut it any more for four hours worth of driving. I might just as well sit tight today and head up to Cannon tomorrow which will probably offer better cruising than Jay despite getting less than half as much natural snow.

Any ways... do you get bogged down in the Go/No Go Decisions? Or do you make plans and go no matter what, frozen groomers and rain be damned? Does distance factor into the equation as it does in my example above? This question would apply to decisions not involving pre-booked lodging for which there is no option.
 

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I am always of the opinion " make a plan work the plan". Things I cant control I do not pay much attention to. To not can only lead to "what ifs" going in less than ideal conditions is still a good day and in many cases you find that shot on the hill that makes it worth while.
 

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Thanks JerseyJoey for the off topic response! I ain't paying full price at Killington, nuff said about that. Loaf got two feet but I ain't driving 9 hours round trip when I told the Misses I'd be home for TDay Dinner. Feel free to reply to the original subject of the thread if you actually want to contribute....


You and deadhead are cut from the same mold. That mold I am sure was found at a 50% off sale
 

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Sugarbush was skiing very well this weekend and appears to have only gotten better....
 

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Going north these days takes an act of god to begin with (for me)...so, when I have a day etched in the schedule, I go regardless of the surface conditions or weather. The only things that I may change are the skis that I plan to bring and the area that I plan to ski...

+1

If I have a planned ski day, I go regardless of the conditions. I typically can find a way to have fun especially if I'm skiing with others which lately has been most of the time. I haven't gotten to the point where I'm selective enough about skiing the surface that I skip it. I hope I never get there.

Take two years ago - we went up to Gore knowing full well we'd be skiing frozen granular and the St Patty's Day storm was rolling in. We drove home in it after slipping around icy trails all day. :blink: In retrospect, I might have skipped that one, but I still had fun.
 
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It's always worth it to go skiing...if you stay home what are you gonna do????

But aside from my job..I never have any other commitments..so it's not like I have to take a girlfriend shopping at the mall or hang with inlaws..but the downside of not having a girlfriend is the lack of regular sex but skiing is better than sex anyway. I've never been one of those skiers who bitched about conditions or said it wasn't worth it...skiing 2 icy groomers to me is better than sitting on the internet...and I'm not that concerned about lift ticket prices..sure I like to score good deals but if I don't oh well..like $65 for opening day at Killington was overpriced but I wanted to ski November 2nd lift served...

Analyzing whether to go skiing or not is bad for your skiing..just go!!!!
 
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You and deadhead are cut from the same mold. That mold I am sure was found at a 50% off sale

:rolleyes:

care to elaborate? Because I rarely pay full price, that's something worthy of throwing a passive aggressive statement out there like you've now done twice in the past week? I think you need to grow a pair Keith


Anyways, to the original question; there are only a finite amount of days that I'm able to go skiing, so outside of a very significant NCP event, I will go pretty much no matter what. I might adjust my plans and go somewhere closer for a half day at a lower cost. When I lived in Maine, on a few occasions last season I skied Shawnee Peak instead of planned trips a few days earlier to Sunday River or Wildcat. If I had a pass somewhere, I might be more selective and skip a day.

My expectations are also a lot lower these days living out of day trip range from Northern Vermont. When I lived in Stowe and was spoiled by skiing powder all the time, I certainly was more choosy, but also was skiing 80 days a season back then, not 20.
 
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Also I never understood the need to ski more hours than drive..I don't find driving to be a drag..I enjoy it..it's actually relaxing for me..On Saturday I'm driving 7 hours up to Stowe..skiing Sunday and Monday and driving home...so at least 14+ hours of driving and it's doubtful that I'll put that many hours in on the slopes especially since hald the time I'm skiing I'm sitting on the chairlift..With skiing I try to be really impulsive...and just go when the oppurtunity presents itself.
 

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I tried something last year... I went every weekend to whiteface (season pass) rain or shine. I found a way to enjoy every condition (having an alpine, freestyle and rock board helped), even the 1 top to bottom groomer they had from the top on opening weekend . I enjoyed riding the weekend after the jan thaw broke when it was a handful of thinly covered boilerplate trails and I enjoyed riding the early march weekend when it was sleet at the bottom and rain at the top. Without the off days you don't appreciate the good ones, plus you'll miss some if you hesitate.

If you work during the week then weekends are for skiing. Just do it, don't look back and have fun. That's what separates 'us' from 'them'.
 

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Also I never understood the need to ski more hours than drive..I don't find driving to be a drag..I enjoy it..it's actually relaxing for me...

You obviously don't travel with kids in the car! lol! The ride there, after dragging pre-teen kids out of bed at 5AM, can destroy any hopes of a decent ski day no matter WHAT the conditions. Or, the ride home, with kids that either skiied real hard and are falling apart or got pulled off the mountain before last chair, can remove all memories of the pleasant day you had.

That's why we finally bought a place in VT. 10 minute commute can easily be beat on the slopes.
 

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If i'm going solo then i am much more selective as to "conditions" be they weather or limited trail counts however around teh holidays when i have several grandkids who are itching to ski we go . eg tomoroow we'll drive 75 minutes one way for about 4-5 trails -- i'll have fun get a some good fast runs with my adult kids and some of teh older grandkids then go play around on teh easy stuf with "The Junior Varsity " Queens in training :D== i'll enjoy it
 
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