especially when suffering from sleep deprivation. I'll leave the comment there though, directed at HughConway.
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I find Skiology Matt provides good useful information for planning where and when to ski which is what I'm often looking for. Come here for that info too, but there is often more irrelevant stuff mixed in here than in his content. Of course some of that is fun too. Nice to have both sources
slatham
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Well not only did the new rope arrive today, they offloaded it and put into place under the Red Chair. Full complement of Pfister crew on hand so perhaps this gets banged out over next couple of weeks.
drjeff
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Nice pics with you being credited for some on Magic's social media feeds today!
slatham
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Thanks. It was really cool to see the process, and the size of the spool. So glad to see it arrive too - they’ve had a tough time with lift contractors, equipment, ledges, concrete, etc etc. Hopefully Pfister is camping out until both Red and Black are running!
drjeff
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If Pfister finishes it up soon, and they're around at the BLT on a Saturday, I can guarantee that me and a bunch of my Mount Snow friends who have had(still have) kids that race at Magic in the SVC, will make the treck up to the BLT and cover their bar tab!
slatham
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Yeah hence the armed border guard on access road to keep the crew from leaving strategy.
machski
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The only way is based on who you hire to do the install/re-engineering for the new location.
urungus
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Latest Alpine Update:
After rainfall last weekend, we finally got the drop in temperature into the 20s and a decent size snowmaking window from Monday to Wednesday this week! Our snowmakers have been working on Lower Magic Carpet off the Green Lift as well as the Nelson Family Learning Area by the conveyor lift. While Thanksgiving was too warm for snowmaking, this weekend we will be back at it to hit the next section of Lower Magic Carpet.
Lower Magic Carpet looking white about half-way down to Vertigo
The 2-miles of Red Lift haul rope arrived last Friday and it was quite the project getting it placed at the base of Red. Pfister's crew will be setting up rigging today so that the rope can get pulled around the towers next week for eventual splicing. New drive will then be installed and chairs put back, slip tested and then full-on load testing and state inspection so we can open to the summit as planned on 12/18. Work on Black Quad towers will happen in conjunction with Red at times and continue after Red is approved until it is also tested and ready-to-go during this season.
18 tons of haul rope moved by crane
After rainfall last weekend, we finally got the drop in temperature into the 20s and a decent size snowmaking window from Monday to Wednesday this week! Our snowmakers have been working on Lower Magic Carpet off the Green Lift as well as the Nelson Family Learning Area by the conveyor lift. While Thanksgiving was too warm for snowmaking, this weekend we will be back at it to hit the next section of Lower Magic Carpet.
Lower Magic Carpet looking white about half-way down to Vertigo
The 2-miles of Red Lift haul rope arrived last Friday and it was quite the project getting it placed at the base of Red. Pfister's crew will be setting up rigging today so that the rope can get pulled around the towers next week for eventual splicing. New drive will then be installed and chairs put back, slip tested and then full-on load testing and state inspection so we can open to the summit as planned on 12/18. Work on Black Quad towers will happen in conjunction with Red at times and continue after Red is approved until it is also tested and ready-to-go during this season.
18 tons of haul rope moved by crane
Hastur
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Happy to see the progress. Looking forward to a cold and snowy winter season.
” I wish them only the best “ - H.C.
” I wish them only the best “ - H.C.
slatham
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Fingers crossed this all goes to plan and Red is ready for 18th and Black sometime during season. In the meantime, hope they can get the weather to be able to open Green, Terrain Park and learning areas before the 18th.
It was interesting to see the unload and positioning of the new rope. This took most of a day. Lift off truck. Readjust crane. Move from left of crane to right of crane. Readjust crane. Repeat. And then once near Red, gingerly move with crane lines just outside Red haul rope, and then readjust where one line is inside the Red haul rope, the other outside, which is what the pic shows. And of course don't hit anything. Just shows how much time this stuff takes.
Would love to see them run the new line but not sure I'll be up there for it.
It was interesting to see the unload and positioning of the new rope. This took most of a day. Lift off truck. Readjust crane. Move from left of crane to right of crane. Readjust crane. Repeat. And then once near Red, gingerly move with crane lines just outside Red haul rope, and then readjust where one line is inside the Red haul rope, the other outside, which is what the pic shows. And of course don't hit anything. Just shows how much time this stuff takes.
Would love to see them run the new line but not sure I'll be up there for it.
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Per FB there was rigging done today to use the old haul rope to pull the new one around the lift. Sounds like progress to me.
Edit: looks like Friday, Saturday, and a couple nights next week have snowmaking temps, too - at this point I'm less worried if Green opens and more curious if they'll go to Vertigo or stockpile snow on Truck or Mystery clear of the work road.
Edit: looks like Friday, Saturday, and a couple nights next week have snowmaking temps, too - at this point I'm less worried if Green opens and more curious if they'll go to Vertigo or stockpile snow on Truck or Mystery clear of the work road.
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Skilifts.org - Hours to Change a Haulrope
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A bit more time consuming than I would have maybe guessed
MG Skier
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Wow, that is a chuck of time. I wish I could pop out there, would love to watch a splice or better yet, lend a hand! Stay safe out there Ops Crew!
Newpylong
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Props for someone who has done it to explain the realities of the process. Nothing with a lift is as quick as clicking your heels.
slatham
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Yeah thats good info, thanks. Luckily a bunch of stuff is done already.
Hastur
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new issue on red.
from magic alpine update;
"There has been a lot of progress on Red Chair but with a new issue discovered. Pfister's crew, with assists from Dan and Russ, has set up a receiving spool for the old haul rope and rigging lines for replacing the old with the new--which is an art form. They are also working on placing the new counterweight cable today. The old rope will serve as the "guide wire" for the new haul rope as they get spliced together and make the two mile trip up and around. This is scheduled for Saturday and, as such, the on-mountain property is closed all the way to summit, plus on Lower Magic Carpet where we will be making snow. Final rope splicing will take place next week-- so good progress there.
However, just to add to the degree of difficulty in terms of timing, a new issue was found this week with a severely worn shaft part into one of the lift's gearboxes--not the big shaft which we are already replacing, but a smaller one. So we quickly contracted with a manufacturer in California who specializes in these type of parts (and is an approved contractor with Dopplemayr) to fabricate a new one for us by shipping the old to them overnight. Of course this adds both time and expense--the critical one right now being time. Pfister and our lift team will do all they can to meet our original 12/18 date but there is a bit of uncertainty now. Either way on December 18th, we will be open for skiing and riding with Green Lift and beginner area, but we will keep you posted on progress with this new part which is critical to operating the Red lift so we can put all the chairs back on the new haul rope and do our slip testing and load-test with the new drive."
i appreciate the transparency. i also really hope there is a summit lift ready for Xmas week.
good luck guys.
from magic alpine update;
"There has been a lot of progress on Red Chair but with a new issue discovered. Pfister's crew, with assists from Dan and Russ, has set up a receiving spool for the old haul rope and rigging lines for replacing the old with the new--which is an art form. They are also working on placing the new counterweight cable today. The old rope will serve as the "guide wire" for the new haul rope as they get spliced together and make the two mile trip up and around. This is scheduled for Saturday and, as such, the on-mountain property is closed all the way to summit, plus on Lower Magic Carpet where we will be making snow. Final rope splicing will take place next week-- so good progress there.
However, just to add to the degree of difficulty in terms of timing, a new issue was found this week with a severely worn shaft part into one of the lift's gearboxes--not the big shaft which we are already replacing, but a smaller one. So we quickly contracted with a manufacturer in California who specializes in these type of parts (and is an approved contractor with Dopplemayr) to fabricate a new one for us by shipping the old to them overnight. Of course this adds both time and expense--the critical one right now being time. Pfister and our lift team will do all they can to meet our original 12/18 date but there is a bit of uncertainty now. Either way on December 18th, we will be open for skiing and riding with Green Lift and beginner area, but we will keep you posted on progress with this new part which is critical to operating the Red lift so we can put all the chairs back on the new haul rope and do our slip testing and load-test with the new drive."
i appreciate the transparency. i also really hope there is a summit lift ready for Xmas week.
good luck guys.
slatham
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Fingers, toes, skis crossed!
drjeff
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Hugh Conway checking in soon.... 
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