The NEW Magic Mountain

[IceEidolon]

Seriously - call the rental agency, tell them their hose leaks and send a driver for a replacement.

 

[JoeB-Z]

Snow report says they are getting enough pressure up the pipes to blow a couple out! Also it is likely they will close Friday due to ...

 

[Newpylong]

Yes but those would be downstream of the main pumps (high pressure) not the pond Trash Pump (low pressure, high volume).

 

[IceEidolon]

Back online per Instagram with at least one fan.

 

[slatham]

At 9am they had 9 air/water guns running, mostly ratnicks. It was obvious other guns had run overnight, including a fan right at the lift loading area. They plan to close until Monday. Hopefully this storm doesn't completely waste the beautiful natural base they have right now. Fingers crossed for enough front side snow to absorb most of rain and keep the base, however rock solid it will become (better than actual rocks).....

 

[Newpylong]

Well unfortunately they had an E shutdown later on because the Trash pump discharge hose blew up.

 

[WoodCore]

Well unfortunately they had an E shutdown later on because the Trash pump discharge hose blew up.

Sounds like they need to upgrade the miners hose...

 

[drjeff]

Over/under that at somepoint during snowmaking ops this season, someone forgets to keep the rental pump fuel tank filled, and it runs out of fuel, the line can't be drained quick enough, and it becomes hundreds of feet of ice? Given the "luck" Magic has had (often brings upon itself) I'd have to unfortunately strongly consider betting the over...

 

[Keelhauled]

If it's cold enough for a six or eight inch hose to freeze solid in the time it takes to re-prime the engine they're not gonna be making snow anyway on account of threat to life and limb. Besides, you just have to disengage the clutch between the engine and pump and it will drain itself via gravity.

 

[drjeff]

If it's cold enough for a six or eight inch hose to freeze solid in the time it takes to re-prime the engine they're not gonna be making snow anyway on account of threat to life and limb. Besides, you just have to disengage the clutch between the engine and pump and it will drain itself via gravity.

Agree under circumstances... but this is Magic we're discussing... and often they tend to (and not always successfully) walk to the beat of their own drummer!)

 

[JoeB-Z]

Yes but those would be downstream of the main pumps (high pressure) not the pond Trash Pump (low pressure, high volume).

I didn't say anything about various pumps. Obviously you must get water to the HP pumps to blow out pipes.

 

[Newpylong]

Over/under that at somepoint during snowmaking ops this season, someone forgets to keep the rental pump fuel tank filled, and it runs out of fuel, the line can't be drained quick enough, and it becomes hundreds of feet of ice? Given the "luck" Magic has had (often brings upon itself) I'd have to unfortunately strongly consider betting the over...

AFAIK the feed line is frost free except for the last section they excavated to stab that Trash pump into. So they probably have a good amount of time to open the drain they added before it turns into a popsicle.

 

[Newpylong]

If it's cold enough for a six or eight inch hose to freeze solid in the time it takes to re-prime the engine they're not gonna be making snow anyway on account of threat to life and limb. Besides, you just have to disengage the clutch between the engine and pump and it will drain itself via gravity.

There is a check valve on it but rotating a pump backwards is not the best idea even just to drain. Depending on the impeller/shaft setup they can unthread themselves, f*ck the seals up, damage the casing or thrust bearings, etc and so on. If someone can get to it to operate the clutch they can open the drain right there.

 

[Keelhauled]

Maybe it's different then, I just assumed it's pretty much the same as a Cornell pump like we use on a manure dragline. We always let the hose drain back into the pit through the pump when we shut it down.

 

[IceEidolon]

There's a drain on that feed line for the electric pump that's still useable, too. I believe SOP is to blow down any pipeline with air as part of the shutdown.

 

[Newpylong]

No, it is not usable because it's inside the pumphouse which is no longer connected.

 

[IceEidolon]

There's a 4" drain at the aboveground spur, but the spur just ties into the new pond feed line. The piping back to the pond pump is completely intact, once that pump is repaired they can slap a blanking plug on the 6" flange aboveground and run electrically, no welder required.

 

[Newpylong]

Oh nice, I was told they were just going to dig down and tie in severing the pipe back to the pit. The way you described certainly makes more sense so they can switch back easily. Once they blank that flange they'll have to bleed some volume out the aboveground drain when they go back to electric otherwise that spur will freeze.

Considering the pump worked fine last year and the pond was just dredged I would bet money Stage 0 is full of sticks and other sh*t assuming there's no basket on it. As soon as the ground re-freezes I'd get a tracked crane or long boom hoe in there to pull that pump ASAP. It could be that simple, or maybe not lol.

 

[Ski2LiveLive2Ski]

Magic says they will reopen Mon with 50 trails. How well do folks think their conditions will be able to bounce back? Better to head somewhere with more grooming expertise on Monday?

 

[ne_skier]

Website currently says 20 for 12/26. Will definitely be a groomer day, if anything ungroomed is somehow open I'll let you guys test it out first lol. In terms of Magic, probably the usual early-season menu items (summit included).