The NEW Magic Mountain

[MG Skier]

drjeff:

Agreed! I have only been skiing Magic since the current management team and investors took over. Every year the product gets stronger with some aspect to skiing: Lift service (all be it not as fast as we want), snow making, grooming and the overall customer experience and service.

Go Magic!

 

[MG Skier]

Just checked on Magic’s webcam. Chairs coming down hill and currently stoped at tower #1! That must mean only a few chairs more to hang.

 

[urungus]

 

[IceEidolon]

Per Alpine Update the chairs are hung on Black Lift.

 

[Newpylong]

A lotta work to be done still.

 

[slatham]

A lotta work to be done still.

Yes there is. They weren’t expecting to need to replace bearings on Red, nor the state issue with the pond. More confident in Hunter Excavating with the pond than I am with Pfister on the lifts. But at least Green can spin. And opening day isn’t until the 16th.

 

[Smellytele]

Yes there is. They weren’t expecting to need to replace bearings on Red, nor the state issue with the pond. More confident in Hunter Excavating with the pond than I am with Pfister on the lifts. But at least Green can spin. And opening day isn’t until the 16th.

Why did they just find out the bearings needed to be replaced? were they fine in aug/sept/oct when they should have been checking them out?

 

[zoomzoom]

"when they should have been checking them out

there's not many easy ways to "check out" bullwheel bearing condition when there are no outward signs of a fault. one way is to derope the wheel and, using a large bar levered against an adequate push point, attempt to lever the bullwheel flange up and down. this is simply checking bearing internal clearances. and spin the wheel of course, listening. but with a heavy wheel rotating slowly in thick grease, one won't hear much.

outward signs of a bearing fault include low rumbling noises { usually at fully loaded condition } or having to continually adjust the bullwheel plane monitors. these are signs, of multiple roller failures. at killington's skye peak quad in the early eighties we heard a single snapping noise once per revolution. we disassembled down to the hub and found a single defect on the outer race. no fun midwinter.

 

[JoeB-Z]

Weren't the bearings replaced when Sullivan couldn't get open way into January? I am probably getting mishaps mixed up.

 

[slatham]

Weren't the bearings replaced when Sullivan couldn't get open way into January? I am probably getting mishaps mixed up.

Sullivan hasn’t run the place in like 10 years between Geoff’s group and Barker ( remember him? What a cluster…..)

 

[Bubba]

Yes there is. They weren’t expecting to need to replace bearings on Red, nor the state issue with the pond. More confident in Hunter Excavating with the pond than I am with Pfister on the lifts. But at least Green can spin. And opening day isn’t until the 16th.

It seems like they are never expecting the unexpected. And never seem to find out about the unexpected until October or November.
It’s the same old story the crow told me, it’s the only one he knows.
Looking forward to 600 VFT of Green to take us into the new year. Meanwhile every other ski area in VT will be skiing top to bottom over Xmass week. Ugh.

 

[slatham]

It seems like they are never expecting the unexpected. And never seem to find out about the unexpected until October or November.
It’s the same old story the crow told me, it’s the only one he knows.
Looking forward to 600 VFT of Green to take us into the new year. Meanwhile every other ski area in VT will be skiing top to bottom over Xmass week. Ugh.

Actually they were proactive. Once there was a potential bearing issue several/many weeks ago, they ordered them. They didn’t wait to confirm new bearings were needed. Delay is more a typical Pfister issue…….

 

[Bubba]

Actually they were proactive. Once there was a potential bearing issue several/many weeks ago, they ordered them. They didn’t wait to confirm new bearings were needed. Delay is more a typical Pfister issue…….

Nothing a ski area does in Oct/Nov is proactive. They continue to be the only Mtn in VT that pass holders have to hold their breath each year and wonder if the Mtn will be able to blow snow or spin lifts. The flood was in July, why was the pond not dredged and maintenance not done in August? Can’t keep blaming everything on Pfister. Lift work can be done in the summer. The local crew could have tested and figured out the bearing issue in June. Most of us are die hard Magic skiers who are sick of the incompetence. Not sure why you feel the need to keep making excuses for them. Riding green over Xmass week is not a consolation prize, it’s a friggen joke.

 

[doublediamond]

With respect to the pond… it takes time to bid out and get state approvals for working in water courses. Can’t blame August dredging on incompetent management. It actually seems rather fast.

 

[BodeMiller1]

"when they should have been checking them out

there's not many easy ways to "check out" bullwheel bearing condition when there are no outward signs of a fault. one way is to derope the wheel and, using a large bar levered against an adequate push point, attempt to lever the bullwheel flange up and down. this is simply checking bearing internal clearances. and spin the wheel of course, listening. but with a heavy wheel rotating slowly in thick grease, one won't hear much.

outward signs of a bearing fault include low rumbling noises { usually at fully loaded condition } or having to continually adjust the bullwheel plane monitors. these are signs, of multiple roller failures. at killington's skye peak quad in the early eighties we heard a single snapping noise once per revolution. we disassembled down to the hub and found a single defect on the outer race. no fun midwinter.

Hours run

Conditions run in

Load doesn't have as much to do with it.

It's all ball bearing these days

 

[urungus]

The flood was in July, why was the pond not dredged and maintenance not done in August?

For some reason there was a high demand for dredging after historic statewide floods … go figure

 

[zoomzoom]

what kills bullwheel bearings is not prepping them for summer downtime. gotta pack them full of grease when you shut down in the spring to keep the summer rains out. and lube them monthly during the season of course!

 

[Bubba]

With respect to the pond… it takes time to bid out and get state approvals for working in water courses. Can’t blame August dredging on incompetent management. It actually seems rather f

For some reason there was a high demand for dredging after historic statewide floods … go

For some reason there was a high demand for dredging after historic statewide floods … go figure

You’re right. Nothing is ever their fault. Let’s chalk it all up to bad luck. Meanwhile, the flooding was statewide, and the “others” are all ready to go.
There is no bidding, Hunter does all their work.

 

[skiur]

I'd say magic lost the benefit of the doubt 3 or 4 years ago, the blame is their own now.

 

[Smellytele]

With respect to the pond… it takes time to bid out and get state approvals for working in water courses. Can’t blame August dredging on incompetent management. It actually seems rather fast.

They dredged the silt pond but have not fixed the snow making pond itself yet nor the pump and intake pipes