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The NEW Magic Mountain

Newpylong

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Didn’t Green have a misplaced tower for a while before it was eventually completed? In this day and age of lasers there’s no reason to have things that out of kilter.

Without any additional info from a high level it sounds like the tower is twisted to the point that the sheaves are at their limits for alignment. So, the entire top frame has to be rotated.

The problem is, in my very limited lift experience the mounting points on Pomas between frame and towers are fixed - they are top down pass through bolts. It's not like a Hall where the frame sides are mounted around the tower with bolts. The towers need to be set close enough where the minute adjustment happen on the sheaves.

I don't know how they would resolve that easily if that's the case. Hopefully I am wrong.
 

VTSkiBike

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I don’t know how anyone expects differently at this point to be honest…Love the mountain but you’re a fool if you just keep believing everything will fall into place last minute. Its been the same story for the past ~three seasons where the lift is “about to be done”. After over a decade of getting a Magic pass and occasionally working there as well I went to the “dark side” and got an Epic pass the last couple seasons and it was wonderful to not have to constantly wonder whether there would even be summit access and skiing the same 5 trails most of the winter. Guess I never drank the kool-aid but the “vibe” BLT and terrain aren’t enough to entice me to want to go back for more than a couple days a season when the snow is good when you can ski Mount Snow, Stowe and Okemo all with a lot more trails open and lifts that actually run. I’m sure Black will run eventually but when that will be is the question…

Yep. I was a faithful Magic skier about 10-15ish years ago and even back then the word was that the Black lift would be ready "any day now."

The "cool, indie" mountain vibe gets really old after these constant screw ups and oversights.
 

ne_skier

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Can't say I won't have an ounce of regret for my pass purchase if this thing is nudged back and back until next season. The least they could do is get a little bit better at damage control. I forgot if it was last season or the season before when they were really doing this, but I'd like to know who approved the often-appearing blurb at the end of weekend snow reports saying something along the lines of "Yes you may experience 20 minute lines on peak days, but everywhere else has 20 minute lines too". No, they don't.
 

urungus

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So.... about that black quad. From what I am hearing it once again seems unlikely that the lift will be completed this season. The 'difficult to access' tower that has been a problem from the outset and has been adjusted several times already requires what may be its most difficult adjustment to date. My understanding is that the tower head needs to be lifted and rotated. Since they have repeatedly claimed that there is no way to get heavy equipment to that location after the snow starts falling some heli time might be the only option until next summer?

Is this coming from your same source that said there wouldn’t be any work days this year ?
 

Smellytele

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Everywhere has free parking and most places have always had premium lots…I pulled up to Carinthia at Mount Snow parked free and was 100 feet from the lifts all last season. If free parking is a selling point over working lifts thats not a good thing…
It was an inside joke after they posted a video joking about free parking.
 

IceEidolon

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Snowmaking pond, per FB, is tested, cleaned out, state approved, and filling now.

RE: Green Lift tower misalignment, that would have been from the 2002? beginning of installation under prior management, and shows it is in theory possible to fix. Eventually. Assuming that's actually the issue with Black.
 

JoeB-Z

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I can only start on Green anyway. Had a knee replacement in June and it feels damn good!
 

ThatGuy

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There was no reason the chair on Red should’ve swung into a tower two seasons ago but it did…
 

skithetrees

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Red is fully expected to be ready opening day, should they have the snow to run it. Black is still targeted by calendar year end.
 

JoeB-Z

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There was no reason the chair on Red should’ve swung into a tower two seasons ago but it did…
There was a reason. I was on on the chair coming up to the tower, right where Witch goes under Red, with the returning chair hitting the tower right in front of me and popping off the cable. The entire lift was surging with a control problem and the lift operator did not stop or slow down the lift as the surging increased.
 
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