To Park or Not?

[mister moose]

In my demographic (geezers)....

So just curious, how old do you have to be to be a geezer?

 

[octopus]

parks need to evolve. the large features are ridiculous and only a handful of people can use them, they need to be more banked slalom /snake run. have fun not huck yourself and hope you don't die.

and skiers can stick to the moguls far away from the park.

 

[steamboat1]

So just curious, how old do you have to be to be a geezer?

Don't worry I think you're almost there.

 

[BenedictGomez]

parks need to evolve. the large features are ridiculous and only a handful of people can use them, they need to be more banked slalom /snake run. have fun not huck yourself and hope you don't die.

and skiers can stick to the moguls far away from the park.

That's the thing, the entire mountain is my "park". I don't need a judge scoring my run down the backside of Smuggler's Notch.*



*Thank God too, because it isnt pretty

 

[Savemeasammy]

and skiers can stick to the moguls far away from the park.

I would like to see some man-made features incorporated into trails. A quarter pipe running down the side of a trail for, for example, could make an otherwise lackluster run much more interesting to ski. Mounds, jumps, seeded bumps (to appease octopus), and other smaller, random features would probably have more appeal to the masses.


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[AdironRider]

I would like to see some man-made features incorporated into trails. A quarter pipe running down the side of a trail for, for example, could make an otherwise lackluster run much more interesting to ski. Mounds, jumps, seeded bumps (to appease octopus), and other smaller, random features would probably have more appeal to the masses.


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Several years ago while I had a college pass to Loon they used to do this. THey had the mondo park down low, but like 6 or 7 smaller ones built onto the sides of trails. Jump here, rail there, really added some nice flavor to otherwise boring intermediate cruisers.

Not sure if they still do.

 

[jaytrem]

Several years ago while I had a college pass to Loon they used to do this. THey had the mondo park down low, but like 6 or 7 smaller ones built onto the sides of trails. Jump here, rail there, really added some nice flavor to otherwise boring intermediate cruisers.

Not sure if they still do.

Mt Snow also did that around 20 years ago or so. Various small things scattered around the mountain, the bigger stuff was only in the park. Only lasted a season or two. Pretty sure Sunday River did the same thing. Both would have been ASC at the time.

 

[Smellytele]

So just curious, how old do you have to be to be a geezer?

I don't think I want to know

 

[jimk]

So just curious, how old do you have to be to be a geezer?

If there is the least bit of doubt in your mind that you might be a geezer, then you are a geezer:grin:

Of course, three years ago at Solitude, UT I had a fellow lift rider tell me I was JUST STARTING OUT when I revealed that I was 57 at the time and been skiing about 45 years. He was a 79 year old great grandfather.

 

[Abubob]

I like to hit a jump now and again but then again I'm 56. I don't think it's necessary to have a half pipe but I see the attraction for having a few features. I agree that monster jumps with massive tables are wasted on most folks but then again so are double diamond glades.


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[ss20]

I agree that monster jumps with massive tables are wasted on most folks but then again so are double diamond glades.

True, but one costs 10s of thousands of dollars each year and the other doesn't cost squat.

 

[thetrailboss]

Overall some interesting comments. It makes sense that parks need to evolve in order to remain fresh and keep folks' attention. It also makes sense that some resorts need it to cater to their market while others don't. I think that the more that can be done to keep folks interested in our sport the better. Personally I don't do parks...but I do enjoy watching good athletes in them.

 

[Abubob]

I agree that monster jumps with massive tables are wasted on most folks but then again so are double diamond glades.

True, but one costs 10s of thousands of dollars each year and the other doesn't cost squat.

My understanding is that half pipes are hugely expensive mostly due to the special equipment needed. But if you had a few rails, boxes and jumps would it still cost 10s of thousands of dollars?

 

[Mapnut]

I don't think I want to know

It's not a matter of age, you just have to geeze. Geezing consists of:
1. Not being tech-savvy;
2. Having physical problems below the waist;
3. Occasionally being crotchety.

 

[ss20]

My understanding is that half pipes are hugely expensive mostly due to the special equipment needed. But if you had a few rails, boxes and jumps would it still cost 10s of thousands of dollars?

You changed the context. First you said monster jumps with massive tables. Now you're saying a few rails and boxes. That wouldn't cost nearly as much.

And my "10s of thousands of dollars" figure was just snowmaking alone, no equipment. The snowmaking for a halfpipe and a few large jumps over 10 years would cost more than the one time purchase of a groomer.

 

[Smellytele]

It's not a matter of age, you just have to geeze. Geezing consists of:
1. Not being tech-savvy;
2. Having physical problems below the waist;
3. Occasionally being crotchety.

Well I guess I am on my way but only meet the third criteria for now.

 

[Abubob]

It's not a matter of age, you just have to geeze. Geezing consists of:
1. Not being tech-savvy;
2. Having physical problems below the waist;
3. Occasionally being crotchety.

Well as far as being tech savvy - I was at Cannon and some kid asks me to take his picture with his iphone and I had to ask three times where the shutter button was.

I have no problems below the waist that I know of. (Unless you mean gassy - but that might just make me an old fart)

And I am most definitely crotchety :uzi::angry:

 

[Abubob]

You changed the context. First you said monster jumps with massive tables. Now you're saying a few rails and boxes. That wouldn't cost nearly as much.

No that doesn't change my context. Some jumps may be too big for me but not for a few. I would say a jump, however large, can be maintained with the same equipment as the rest of any trail. According to the Snowjournal thread mentioned earlier the extra equipment for a half pipe would cost approximately $20,000.

And my "10s of thousands of dollars" figure was just snowmaking alone, no equipment. The snowmaking for a halfpipe and a few large jumps over 10 years would cost more than the one time purchase of a groomer.

Really? I'm not sure I buy that. Do you have any figures to back that up? I could understand 10s of thousands of dollars to maintain an entire mountain not one trail with a few whale shaped into jumps. (I would seriously like to know. I'm not trying to merely contradict.)

 

[ss20]

Really? I'm not sure I buy that. Do you have any figures to back that up? I could understand 10s of thousands of dollars to maintain an entire mountain not one trail with a few whale shaped into jumps. (I would seriously like to know. I'm not trying to merely contradict.)

http://cosnow.com/2008/11/08/snow-making-trivia-cost-of-half-pipe/

 

[Abubob]

http://cosnow.com/2008/11/08/snow-making-trivia-cost-of-half-pipe/

That is specifically about super pipes or half pipes. Any information about cost of snow making alone?