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Universal versus temperature specific ski wax (how much difference)

Scruffy

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When I'm alpine racing, or cross country on waxable XC-skis, it's a precise ritual, otherwise its Swix Universal all the time, unless it's going to be 50 degrees, then Swix Yellow.

http://www.swixsport.com/Products/Wax-Tuning/Glider/Base-Prep-Universal2/Universal-Glide-Wax-60g2

For Alpine, I use to wax every 3 days out, but I've found if your base is clean and not "fuzzy" you don't need much wax, and now do every 5-10 days. There use to be a thread on the now defunct Epic Ski from a plastics engineer that works with the same plastics that is used for ski bases and he maintained that the idea that wax is absorbed into the base of today's ski bases is a myth. I think the thread may have been moved to PugSki.

Here it is. I haven't read it all, but food for thought:

https://forum.pugski.com/threads/my...ew-base-material-idea.2460/page-7#post-203276

Then there's the permanent base wax treatment from DPS:
https://forum.pugski.com/threads/re...-base-glide-treatment.7690/page-4#post-183752
 

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I ski mostly in March and April. Started using Swix F4 Easy Glide in warm conditions a few years ago. Certainly an improvement.

As container appears empty, I bought some ZUM Wax on Amazon. Warm snow air. It is yellow.

Will be using shortly. Will report.
 

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I ski mostly in March and April. Started using Swix F4 Easy Glide in warm conditions a few years ago. Certainly an improvement.

The rub on or the paste? And curious if you feel that lasts the entire day or only for a few runs.
 

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A little late to the party here...

But note that folks talking about temp. specific waxes... The temperature in question is the snow surface temperature, not the ambient temperature.

There can be a pretty wide gulf between those two numbers, and if you wax for the air temp, you might regret it.

But in general terms, an all temp wax and a spring wax will cover 99% of your conditions as a recreational skier.

I've been using Hertel's Super Hot Sauce: https://www.hertelskiwax.com/Hertel-Super-Hot-Sauce-Ski-Wax-s/123.htm for the past couple of seasons, and I really like the way it works. I use it basically all year, and try to put a fresh coat on after every 3 or so days out.

When Spring conditions arrive, I switch to using their Spring solution: http://www.hertelskiwax.com/Hertel-Spring-Solution-Ski-Wax-s/125.htm which works pretty well, but I did find myself re-applying after every day out last spring, as by the end of the day, I would notice degraded performance.

-w
 
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Rub on i guess. Deodorant like package. Dense foam applicator, with hole in middle to allow liquid to run out of container and onto ski. Lasted a day.
 

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I was under the impression that wax doesn't last for more than a few minutes if your bases are extruded.
 

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Rub on i guess. Deodorant like package. Dense foam applicator, with hole in middle to allow liquid to run out of container and onto ski. Lasted a day.

I may have to grab some of that for lazy times or "emergency" times. I've heard varying reports which is why I asked, some people seem to say it lasts a day like you said (which would be great), but then I've heard others saying it lasts 2 runs, which to me is useless. I guess I'll experiment for myself, but I like the concept for those days when your quiver choice changes last minute.
 

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A thing of universal liquid wax has been a required item in ski boot bag for a long time. I wouldn't go out without it but only use it a couple of times a winter. It seems like on really cold days or really warm days I have issues with snow sticking to my skis (cold) or skis not sliding very well (warm). This happens even after I've had skis recently professionally tuned. When I was skiing during the Xmas - New Years break this season and we were getting those -10 degree days my skis and my boy's were fresh from a tune. Still needed to swipe some liquid wax on them. I find the liquid wax does wonders for that and lasts all day. Below pic is what I use.

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