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None of my hate was irrational. It was all accurate and depicted actual happenings and concerns.
But yes, my hate to peak resorts was based on gross mismanagement of ski areas, operations, safety, funds and general management with heads up their asses and chips on their shoulders. This will now all change. It will take some time. But will change for the better.
I’m no Vail fan boy but you can’t argue that they do ski areas right. Good changes to come to bad ski areas is a positive thing.
already committed to ikon for next season but will def switch to epic for the following for sure
RIP Wildcat---May 2019.
Will Vail keep it the same anti-grooming/hardcore vibe?
Sad that the skiing industry is now one large company. If I were New Hampshire I'd force them to give up Wildcat. But then again I'm from Mass, and New Hampshire probably loves huge businesses taking over their state, screwing over locals.
Yeah, the people that literally only ski at 1 place ever will pay more, but realistically I have to imagine they are relatively few in number.
I’m sure glad I haven’t bought anything!already committed to ikon for next season but will def switch to epic for the following for sure
I disagree, I think Vail should have major antitrust concerns, especially in NH. Vail now owns (not just partners with) Mount Snow and Okemo (so if you leave K out, they own almost 2/3 of the Southern VT market), Stowe and in NH Crotched, Sunapee, Attitash and Wildcat. That could be trouble for them, though arguable still less than what ASC had when it was forced to divest Waterville, Cranmore and Sugarbush. We'll see I guess.
You really cannot compare Vail to Alterra in the East, where ownership of resorts is concerned. Yes, Ikon probably has more access in the East, but most of it is access only, not owned. Alterra only owns Stratton, the rest of NE is partner resorts with limited access on the Ikon.
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Agreed, but Attitash did just comment on their Instagram page that there will be an announcement coming about the triple this week. Having said that, they'll probably announce "investing $X million in these resorts" and then add an on mountain restaurant.
I ski the Crotch for 90% of the days I ski, and got screwed when Peaks came along and will now probably get screwed again.
This deal can also affect the Connecticut Ski Council days. When Vail bought Okemo they did not partner with the ski council and no days were offered last season. I'm afraid this might happen to Mount Snow, as Mount Snow had a ton of days, plus the group discount.
Maybe more Bromley-Magic on the awareness days if this happens.
It's really sinking in to me how much this positively sucks as a Mount Snow daytripper who would get 5-10 days a year there. Often I could get a ticket for $40-$60 through PSIA, ski club, or just buying the online rate. Goodbye to all that!!! And they were soooo pumped to be a part of the early season game this season and said they'd be committed to doing it year-after-year in the future...almost a definite "no" to that now as well. As much as I love Killington, driving 2.75 hours to Mount Snow to ski 1,600ft top-to-bottom is much better than 3.25 hours to K to do the gondola-hike-500ft ski-hike out with the early season North Ridge operation.
It's definitely a "new game" for resort operations in a lot of ways.
1. Southern VT is "locked-in" by corporate ski corporations and $100+ lift tickets (even online) at Stratton, Mount Snow, and Okemo. Can Bromely and Magic steal some business away???
2. If Vail terminates Mount Snow's early season plan and Wildcat's late season plan does this open up the early/late game to a new player?
3. Who is Alterra going to pick up next to compete with Vail??
Very hard to believe 2 seasons ago I skied 15 days at Killington/Pico, 4 days at Mount Snow, 4 days at Sugarbush, 4 days at Stratton, 2 days at Magic, and 4 days at Okemo. Corporate ski industry has made me "commit" to one mountain or "chain" and I say f*** that. I'll get 20+ days at Killington/Pico and around 5 days at Sugarbush and Magic. I sure miss the variety. Before all this BS I'd pay $50-$60 just to "switch things up" for a daytrip or weekend but I'm not paying $100 simply to add variety.
If you skied more than 10 days, you can simply buy the Ikon pass and end up with the same cost per day. (if you ski more days, even lower per day)Very hard to believe 2 seasons ago I skied 15 days at Killington/Pico, 4 days at Mount Snow, 4 days at Sugarbush, 4 days at Stratton, 2 days at Magic, and 4 days at Okemo. Corporate ski industry has made me "commit" to one mountain or "chain" and I say f*** that. I'll get 20+ days at Killington/Pico and around 5 days at Sugarbush and Magic. I sure miss the variety. Before all this BS I'd pay $50-$60 just to "switch things up" for a daytrip or weekend but I'm not paying $100 simply to add variety.