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deadheadskier

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CONWAY — Five years ago Monday, a horrific shooting at the Army Barracks store in North Conway rocked the Mount Washington Valley. The shooter, Michael Woodbury, then 31 of Windham, Maine, has been sentenced to prison for the rest of his life for murdering three people.

At least Woodbury won't be able to kill again.

Unlike Martial Simon:

"In 2017, the Times said records show Simon told a psychiatrist at a state-run hospital it was only a matter of time before he shoved a woman onto train tracks, but he was still released soon after."

"The homeless man charged with killing a young New York City woman months ago when he pushed her in front of an oncoming subway train in Times Square was ruled not mentally fit to stand trial and will be sent to a psychiatric facility indefinitely following a Tuesday court hearing."

Like I said, I'll take Conway, NH over NYC any day.

I get it. You fear many urban areas that are heavily populated with immigrants who live a little bit differently than you. We've had this conversation before. You've even said there are neighborhoods in Manchester, NH that you are nervous going through.

Agree with Krusty on the Tucker comment. You've gulped up that made for TV fear the city propaganda big time.

Being afraid of NYC is just silly. And unfortunate because it's without question the most fascinating city in our country.
 

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Jesus Christ……stay inside everyone! It’s dangerous out there. I can’t believe anyone goes anywhere anymore. I haven’t left my house since the Y2K scare, those computers could crash any day now sending us straight into a post apocalyptic Mad Max world scenario where gangs of murder hornets mad on the reefer run the streets with a savage attack on our Christmas traditions.
 
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8000 PPH maximum with 8 standing. With only seated riders, 4800 PPH per Doppelmeyer's published numbers.

What's the desired hourly ridership during peak times?
 

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A new product from Dopp just in time for the LCC Gondola consideration:

I saw that as well.
8000 PPH maximum with 8 standing. With only seated riders, 4800 PPH per Doppelmeyer's published numbers.

What's the desired hourly ridership during peak times?
I don't know if they have gotten that far yet. Basically it was an administrative review and they don't have the $$$ so it is up to the legislature to accept it and fund it.

$500 mill seems like a ton of change for a lift that will really only operate winter weekends and winter holidays and sit idle the rest of the time.
 

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A minute from the Alta exit off the I-15!
8000 PPH maximum with 8 standing. With only seated riders, 4800 PPH per Doppelmeyer's published numbers.

What's the desired hourly ridership during peak times?

Are you asking for the LCC gondola? Roughly 3,200-4,00pph is what has been published by UDOT and Gondola Works. It's a decent capacity. I'd expect the lines to be pretty bad between 8am and 9am but we will see.
 

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8000 PPH maximum with 8 standing. With only seated riders, 4800 PPH per Doppelmeyer's published numbers.

What's the desired hourly ridership during peak times?
I would think mostly just seated, assuming many will bring boot bags or larger backpacks with additional gear for the day with them. They will need the floor space for that.
 

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How many people ski at the Bird and Alta on peak days?
ss20 can speak to Alta.

I believe that between the two areas they can handle about 5000 cars. I may be off though.

As to Snowbird, it’s really hard to tell because they have the hotels, some people taking the bus, some people crossing over from Alta, and of course daytrippers who are parking in the lot. From what I am seeing they are very bullish about increasing the number of people on the slopes in order to increase revenue. Lines are much longer than my first 5-6 years in LCC.

Here is also an interesting piece of hindsight. About five or six years ago Snowbird was working on their Mary Ellen expansion. At one time they were considering adding a separate base area so that people could access Snowbird from American Fork Canyon.

Obviously people in Utah County were pissed about it because they were concerned about – – wait for it – – an increase in traffic in that area. So Snowbird quietly got rid of the base area plan and now has focused on LCC as the only access point.

As much as they were revving to get going on Mary Ellen about five years ago, nothing has really been done other than taking out the Hillary Step and grading a cat traverse over to the pass just above the Bookends. In talking with folks who have knowledge they said that Mary Ellen was shelved until access was addressed.
 
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If they put the gondola in would they limit vehicle travel up. As others have mentioned people bring a lot of shit. Think of a family getting on the gondola with all their shit. Kids carrying their boots and skis. It is a pain enough forgetting shit in the car but now you got the gondola to deal with. Single adults and couples are one thing families as a whole other dimension. I personally would still want to drive up on most days.
 

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This is basically how Breckenridge works unless you are staying on property, albeit the gondola ride is shorter than LCC but then its a bus ride back to the free lot
 

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8000 PPH maximum with 8 standing. With only seated riders, 4800 PPH per Doppelmeyer's published numbers.

What's the desired hourly ridership during peak times?

I read what they listed, an 8000 per hour "throughput" as 4000/hr on the upside of the lift and 4000/hr on the downside of the lift, which may be the case even for this installation in this Swiss resort as in the article it mention that it is replacing a feeder lift for the resort
 

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at 4:20 seems to say 8,000 PPH "a direction" which tracks pretty well with a 20 person car running at almost the same frequency as a monocable 8 person car. I'm sure they're happy to build lifts with less capacity - the double sided electric doors are called out as optional, for example.
 
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