Vote for Utah ski bus

[thetrailboss]

I think you need to move

Yeah, as I said, likely last season at Snowbird.

And as to leaving the area that is also a consideration.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

Yeah, as I said, likely last season at Snowbird.

And as to leaving the area that is also a consideration.

where would you go?

would it make sense to keep your life/home in SLC and just ski PowMow/Snowbasin on the weekends? downtown SLC to Snowbasin is a 50 min drive according to google maps. seems like a good way to not have to uproot your life but avoid the shitshows in the canyons. and i would think your typical tuesday at alta/bird is fine.

 

[thetrailboss]

where would you go?

would it make sense to keep your life/home in SLC and just ski PowMow/Snowbasin on the weekends? downtown SLC to Snowbasin is a 50 min drive according to google maps. seems like a good way to not have to uproot your life but avoid the shitshows in the canyons. and i would think your typical tuesday at alta/bird is fine.

The issues are more than skiing. And more with my better-half.

I wish that skiing was the only consideration.

 

[Smellytele]

On another side note. California has asked people not to charge their electric vehicles because the grid is taking a hit from the heat wave. This a few weeks after they said all vehicles need to be electric (or another unknown alternative) by 2035.

 

[drjeff]

On another side note. California has asked people not to charge their electric vehicles because the grid is taking a hit from the heat wave. This a few weeks days after they said all vehicles need to be electric (or another unknown alternative) by 2035.

Fixed it for you ST

And I don't want to think about what could happen should someone in an EV pushing to get to Tahoe or Mammoth in a storm get stranded in blizzard conditions and stuck for hours in their EV unable to move. Sure, gas powered cars can certainly run out of gas in a situation like that, however the ability to potentially give some gas from 1 car to another in a situation like that is far easier than if an EV's battery is at 0%

 

[tumbler]

Skip electric and develop Hydrogen.

 

[Smellytele]

Skip electric and develop Hydrogen.

Worked well in the Hindenburg

 

[KustyTheKlown]

i'm going to portland oregon for 5 days in October and it was significantly cheaper to rent and insure a tesla3 on turo vs any options from mainstream rental agencies, so i will have my first fully ev experience soon

 

[Smellytele]

i'm going to portland oregon for 5 days in October and it was significantly cheaper to rent and insure a tesla3 on turo vs any options from mainstream rental agencies, so i will have my first fully ev experience soon

Your hotel have hookups?

 

[tumbler]

Worked well in the Hindenburg

but I'm not in the market for a Zepplin.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

Your hotel have hookups?

airbnb. i presume a crunchy city like portland should have lots of public charge available

 

[jimmywilson69]

hopefully your rented Tesla doesn't get stolen or vandalized. I've heard Portland is approaching 3rd world city...

 

[KustyTheKlown]

hopefully your rented Tesla doesn't get stolen or vandalized. I've heard Portland is approaching 3rd world city...

that gets a big fat yawn from me as a NYC person who has watched the media sensationalize the conditions in my fair city for the past 2 years.

i anticipate good coffee, good beer, good pot, good restaurants, people with flannel and tattoos, and some homeless in the downtown center. no biggie.

 

[jimmywilson69]

That was from someone I know who went through there recently. I too figured it was over blown and still thi k said person may be over blowing it.

Many suburban folk are afraid of thw city

 

[KustyTheKlown]

yea that aint me. the only places in America pretty much i have been where i was like 'woah what the fuck, get me out of here' were the tenderloin sf and west baltimore.

 

[ss20]

I am anti bus, anti gondola, anti any major canyons expansion of transit. I am in the camp of "it's a 20-25 days-a-year issue, lets keep making incremental steps to make it a 10-15 days-a-year issue, and not blow up the canyons or spend tons of taxpayers money in the process"

Traffic is an issue in the canyons. But blow that capacity up and you'd have resorts unable to cope with the demand.

My post on Pugski a week or so ago-

On days where parking is 100% maxed out at both Snowbird and Alta there is not enough uphill capacity (this would be without parking reservations- 100% true capacity of the lots). You'd see 15 minute lines at Collins, Sugarloaf, Peruvian, Gadzoom, Gad2, Little Cloud, and of course the tram. At Snowbird the issue is much more severe, IMO.

It's exceedingly unlikely that terrain is ever expanded again at either resort. Supposedly Alta's Grizzly Gulch terrain is still a potential play but I personally don't think it's likely and it's very far away should it ever be built. On paper, both resorts have a ton of terrain and few lifts servicing it. However, both mountains have some of the worst pinch-points/intersections I have ever experienced... a fact frequently forgotten due to the higher level of skiers at both resorts and their reputation for powder seekers- not on-trail enthusiasts. This has been another issue with Ikon- people who just want to rip groomers are coming to AltaBird and these resorts are probably the worst in the country for groomers. Any kind of lift upgrades would further worsen these pinch points.

This is not hyperbole. There have been numerous deaths and LifeFlights skiing groomers at both Alta and Snowbird, mostly collisions. This past season at AltaBird I had 134 days. I made roughly 6-8 calls to ski patrol for injured/downed people the whole season. Zero were off-piste. They were all groomed runs. 2 were on the same run, on the same day. A 14yo boy passed away after a collision with an out-of-control skier on the groomed Devil's Elbow in February.

This is why I am against any kind of major transportation upgrade up the canyon proposed by UDOT. You can upgrade lifts to 6 packs and 8 packs and whatever but it would be complete and utter carnage on the way down. The way the topography is here there are no wide, groomed boulevards you see at any other resort that's handling 10,000 skier visits+ a day. What is groomed is almost always narrow with blind spots aplenty. It is BAD and severely overlooked because of the "hardcore" nature of both resorts.

 

[thetrailboss]

 

[thetrailboss]

I am anti bus, anti gondola, anti any major canyons expansion of transit. I am in the camp of "it's a 20-25 days-a-year issue, lets keep making incremental steps to make it a 10-15 days-a-year issue, and not blow up the canyons or spend tons of taxpayers money in the process"

Traffic is an issue in the canyons. But blow that capacity up and you'd have resorts unable to cope with the demand.

My post on Pugski a week or so ago-

Damn, were you a witness to that fatality at Alta last season? That sucked.

 

[BenedictGomez]

One opinion: https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/2022/09/01/building-gondola-ski-resorts-is/

I think an intentionally uninformed opinion given his major crux is to, "exhaust all the cheaper options" given the bus options (all in) really aren't much cheaper at all per the economic analysis, and he surely must know that given his research on the subject. Not to mention he shoe-horned in the standard "herp derp, there wont be any skiing 5 minutes from now anyway because Global Warming", ridiculousness. Then he quotes Save Our Canyon at the end, so it's pretty clear what he's all about.

 

[BenedictGomez]

yea that aint me. the only places in America pretty much i have been where i was like 'woah what the fuck, get me out of here' were the tenderloin sf and west baltimore.

Surely you dont feel safe walking alone at 2am in Brownsville or B.S.