He's got that round bald head that makes him look soft. After watching him work out on those bleachers I wouldn't want to tangle with him.
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He's got that round bald head that makes him look soft. After watching him work out on those bleachers I wouldn't want to tangle with him.
Robert Goulet
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Out of curiousity, what do you guys like about BFI more? One thing that I've always noticed is that I like a ski movie more every time I watch it but I still like Wanderland more. I do think that the Newfie section from BFI was better than the one in this years movie, but a lot had to do with the conditions. They try to make their one big trip into a little more of a documentary (think Gaspe and Newfie trips.) The problem is that when the conditions don't allow for great ski footage, you are left with more "other stuff" besides skiing. Overall though, I thought the stowe and Jay segments in Wanderland are the best two segments they have in any of their films. The skiing is stronger than in the past (thanks to Asia, Stacey, Jay Bowen, and others) in these segments. Some people flail a little more in powder, or over rotate their upper body and the above mentioned are very smooth, square (upper body), and generally more technically proficient. But that's just my opinion.
In terms of Whiteface, Sugarloaf, Tucks, I think they should shoot more in some of these locations. I was stoked to see Cannon this year. They dont' do tucks anymore for two reasons. 1) they used to film there a lot in their old movies (ie elevated 2003 and schooled 2004) and 2) they want to start showing backcountry that people are blown away at. everyone has already done tucks - to the extent that some don't really see it as backcountry anymore. That's their opinion anyways.
For the last 2 years, I've been taking pics of remote prospective backcounty in the whites during the fall (when I work for the Appalachain Mountain Club). Although I haven't been around during the winter the last two years, I hope to take them to some of the places next year when I'm back east. I've already shown some of the pics to Rooster and I know that stacey knows about a lot of them. Hopefully more diverse White Mountain backcountry in the future!
Hope you all have a great season. PM me if any of you hit up Alta this winter.
In terms of Whiteface, Sugarloaf, Tucks, I think they should shoot more in some of these locations. I was stoked to see Cannon this year. They dont' do tucks anymore for two reasons. 1) they used to film there a lot in their old movies (ie elevated 2003 and schooled 2004) and 2) they want to start showing backcountry that people are blown away at. everyone has already done tucks - to the extent that some don't really see it as backcountry anymore. That's their opinion anyways.
For the last 2 years, I've been taking pics of remote prospective backcounty in the whites during the fall (when I work for the Appalachain Mountain Club). Although I haven't been around during the winter the last two years, I hope to take them to some of the places next year when I'm back east. I've already shown some of the pics to Rooster and I know that stacey knows about a lot of them. Hopefully more diverse White Mountain backcountry in the future!
Hope you all have a great season. PM me if any of you hit up Alta this winter.
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The success of the future with Meathead Films is the following (in no particular order):
1) Ski destinations (like NY area) this year that have never been skied before... you hit it with the photos being taken while a member of the AMC
2) Build a terrain park \ jumps with different features than a regular terrain park
3) Add Snowboarding...
4) Take a trip out West... surprise everybody with some terrain that you hiked and skied out West... why not... show people what you can do... just because you are an east coast film company doesn't meant that you have to ski only the east coast...
1) Ski destinations (like NY area) this year that have never been skied before... you hit it with the photos being taken while a member of the AMC
2) Build a terrain park \ jumps with different features than a regular terrain park
3) Add Snowboarding...
4) Take a trip out West... surprise everybody with some terrain that you hiked and skied out West... why not... show people what you can do... just because you are an east coast film company doesn't meant that you have to ski only the east coast...
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Follow up on item 4... The Meathead guys are friends with a few guys at TGR... with Rooster having a short segment on the Stowe visit why not allow them to pay a visit to Jackson Hole and allow them to tour them around there in the B.C....
severine
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I'm not going to touch #3 other than to say it's "ski the East"
but #4 ... part of the appeal of Meatheads is that it IS the East. I watch their films more than anything else because of that. It in some way seems more attainable, there's local pride, and it's just kind of cool to have an area featured that oftentimes is neglected. Would not be the same, IMHO, if they were not skiing the East.
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I'm not going to touch #3 other than to say it's "ski the East"
Limiting a mountain to skiers only, I accept that... With a ski movie, they can adventure outside of the box a bit...
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Just got done watching it. I have to say, they are tops in Urban skiing which was most of the movie... or at least it seemed that way. But as a whole the movie was ok. I dug the music but it was a little too sedated for me.
To me the extras made up for it... and man, there are a lot of extras.
To me the extras made up for it... and man, there are a lot of extras.
riverc0il
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The funny thing is that Tuckerman Ravine is merely the entry point from which most people begin exploring Mount Washington. There are so many options on that Mountain Range and many of them are pretty remote and not easily attainable by many people. I can understand not doing Tuckerman because they have done it before and/or it is a popular spot. But they are over looking some of the premier backcountry in the Northeast by skipping over the entire Presidential range.
Additionally, juxtapose that philosophy with showing Stowe in every single movie. Granted, that is usually some of their best footage, but it isn't different. So not doing Tucks because it was done a lot in their first three movies strikes me as odd considering Stowe appears in every single one of their movies.
The fact that Cannon is on Wanderland and they still have ripping scenes from both Jay and Stowe are really the only three reasons I am even remotely interested in seeing this year's offering considering what has been discussed so far both here and else where. Hopefully I can hit up the Concord show on the 9th as I think this will be their first offering that I do not purchase.
Marc
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Hey, anyone know anything about why some of the guys in the first few movies don't appear on the website any more? Specifically Joe Morabito, Simon Thompson, Jason Ghikadis, and Andrew Whiteford. Those guys seemed like the more well rounded of the skiers they had... I wonder why they dissappeared? Also that tele guy who summitted Everest... what was his name?
The everest guy was Dave Watson?? I think, he is still on there- all red suit- halloween scene with Rooster, etc... I know, I would like to see particularly Simon come back. He was one of the most well rounded skiers I have seen in their films may it be back country or park.
I think a lot of those guys, ahem, moved out west . . .
Marc
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Dave Watson, that was the dude.
Robert Goulet
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Joe, andrew, and one other dude all moved out to Jackson last year. I think poor winter of 2006 did em in. Also just wanted to try something new. Andrew finished 4th in the semifinals of the Jackson Hole open last year. Pretty damn good. Simon is now in Whistler. Jason isn't skiing much anymore. Kinda burned out.
Marc
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That's too bad. I mean, good for them, but I miss seeing them ski.
Robert Goulet
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Yeah, hopefully they come back. Saw Joe a few times last year in JH and Alta. I bet he comes back in a year or two. I'll be back next year (assuming I get into the law school I want to). Hopefully ski a lot more with the Meatheads and get them into the White mountain backcountry.
Marc
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Any idea if they'll do any more footage with more of a mountaineering flavor to it, like the Katahdin and Washington segments of Epoch, and the especially the Mont St. Nicholas... something... in Schooled? I enjoy that stuff, and I'm not alone, even though there's not much terrain available for real ski mountaineering on the east coast...
Robert Goulet
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Good question. Last year, the meatheads were actually trying to get a trip going into Northern Labrador in the Torngat Mountains. There are no towns up there and we would be dropped off by sea plane or boat and would bring all our supplies for a week with us and live in tents. We would be doing all skinning etc. The problem was funding. They needed a lot more money than they had to make that type of trip happen. There are a ton of expenses invoved in getting a group up there in remote mountains. They sent letters to a whole bunch of sponsors to try to get the money but no one could really promise that sum. So they settled on newfoundland instead. parts of Gros Morne are very different than the blow me downs that you saw in BFI. The problem was that since all the snow was an inch or two of soft under pure ice (it rained 5 inches the week before we got there), we couldn't really ski a lot of the stuff that would have made the footage more epic (think 2,000 vertical foot couloirs down the side of fjords). It was simply too dangerous. I think these areas would offer some of the best oppertunities for some good ski mountaineering but we couldn't ski it while we were there. maybe in an upcoming movie? We'll see. Obviously this is the type of footage that they are thinking about and would like to film but it's tough to organize a huge trip way ahead of time and just cross your fingers that the conditions will work out. Plus the money......
Marc
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I understand. Thanks for the inside info! I actually wanted to ski the Torngat's after looking at them on Google Earth. I think it's too dry to get a lot of snow up there, but the couloirs with a leeward exposure I'm sure collect plenty of wind blown and of course, up at that latitude it doesn't get warm enough to melt, so it just continues to build up. And yeah, I can imagine the kind of scratch you'd need for that kind of trip. That's an all out expedition. When I have enough to retire on a 50' aluminum sailboat I need to ski there. And Norway. And Glacier Bay. Anyway... again, thanks for the inside info. Check out the wood box at MRG this winter if you have a chance. There's some new stuff of that might interest you.
awf170
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The Great Gulf on a bluebird spring day would be amazing for the meatheads. With a good zoom from the ridge you could get some great footage. There is some very gnarly crap in there that would be perfect for the meatheads.
Also, I'd imagine King and Castle Ravine would also provide some good stuff. Heck, how about Huntington, that would provide for some pretty rad footage.
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