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western resorts prepare for major downturn this winter

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There is a prevailing opinion among northeast resorts that the current economic downturn will not effect us as much as the western resorts. Wishful thinking perhaps back a few months ago but now that we are on the dawn of a new ski season the news just now staring to appear may prove this to be correct. Course, it does depend somewhat on the weather which unfortunately at the moment isn't helping places like
JH.

To be honest, I don't spend as much time as I want on all the regions of the west but for JH, the s*** has already hit the fan. The business community is adjusting to a predicted 25% downturn in business. Normally, the local paper lists about 8 pages of jobs and maybe 10 rentals but my most recent copy of the paper shows 3 pages of jobs and 80 rentals. I't's now front page news.

Like alot of ski towns out west the real estate prices have continued upward, actually soared, for the last 30 years, that has coming to loud thud. Inventory is getting bloated and the number of sales is down 50% from a year ago. When I moved to Jackson in 1979 there were 35 real estate folks, when I left and returned to the homeland(Vermont, of course) in 1996 there were 350 and I read in the paper a few months ago there were over 800. A big and swift reduction in force has already started.

Lots of posters on AZ take a trip or 2 out west each year, a few even live out there. Curious if this predicted or pending downturn in business is spread across the Rockies from New Mexico to Montana? Is it mainly the hard to get to destinations resorts like JH, Whitefish(formally Big Mtn), is Utah able to fair better with SLC just down the hill? Any news in the Aspen Times or the Steamboat Pilot or the Salt Lake Tribune?

Thoughts, news, first hand info?
 
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I'm looking into booking my Jackson Hole trip for late January and lodging and airfare are equal to and even less than last season...it could mean even less people during a typically empty time of the year. I don't consider Jackson Hole a hard to get to resort..I can fly from Allentown to Chicago to Jackson and be there at lunchtime...Big Sky and Whitefish Mountain resorts..I would consider hard to get to.

None of this is surprising to me..alot of really wealthy people lost half their life savings in the stock market so they are cutting back on non-essential spending...
 

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My family is skipping our usual March week in Utah this year. Not because of the economy, but because my wife and I will be taking an extended vacation next October to Hawaii in conjunction with a conference Gotta balance out the vacation stuff a bit ;)
 
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I'm planning on spending more time in the Rockies this season...a combination of more vacation time and more $$$$...will have me taking 2-3 trips out west instead of last seasons one trip..
 

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Doesn't affect me really as I couldn't afford to go when times were good :lol:

Like a seasoned Red Sox fan I keep saying, maybe next year. Hopefully it won't be 86 years between trips though :lol:
 

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Vail from 12/9 to 12/15
BCC and LCC from 1/30 to 2/6
Jackson from 2/7 to 2/14

Now I just have to figure out which of my 3 kids won't be going to college.
 
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Vail from 12/9 to 12/15
BCC and LCC from 1/30 to 2/6
Jackson from 2/7 to 2/14

Now I just have to figure out which of my 3 kids won't be going to college.

If I ever have kids..they're either going to be smart enough to receive full schlarships..or a little der der der..and then they can work at Arbys and give me the hookup on Beef and Cheddar sandwiches..
 

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Yeah. There's 8 of us going. We rented a 4 bedroom house in Cottonwood height, right at the bottom of BCC and LCC roads.

Great thing about those areas, you can take a flight out of LGA or EWR at 6 am and be on the slopes by 11:00am Utah time. Can't beat that.
 

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I am making my first trip out West this year. After 30 years of waiting the time has come. I am staying with friends in Summit County
 

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I am heading to Tahoe with 3 other adults and 5 boys under 11. We also rented a 4 bedroom house that is filled with video arcade games and pinball machines. Need something to entertain the boys while we adults drink. Flight leaves Manchvegas at 7 and we get in at noon:30. Not time to ski but still not bad. Now if I can just find cheap tickets to Squaw and Alpine Meadows!
 

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My family is skipping our usual March week in Utah this year. Not because of the economy, but because my wife and I will be taking an extended vacation next October to Hawaii in conjunction with a conference Gotta balance out the vacation stuff a bit ;)



A vacation to Hawaii is worth three or maybe four trips to Utah!
 

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I am heading to Tahoe with 3 other adults and 5 boys under 11. We also rented a 4 bedroom house that is filled with video arcade games and pinball machines. Need something to entertain the boys while we adults drink. Flight leaves Manchvegas at 7 and we get in at noon:30. Not time to ski but still not bad. Now if I can just find cheap tickets to Squaw and Alpine Meadows!

Sounds very similar to what we're doing, just in a different state. We're only bringing 1 kid, one of my 5 year old boys. The rest are adults.

I took him last year too on the same trip for 11 days with the same people. I tried to prep him and hydrate him and whatnot the week before we left, but the altitude really kicked his butt the first couple of days. Then he was back to his normal self.

To this day, he still thinks that Powder Mountain is a place you go to ski and get tired. Too funny.
 
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A vacation to Hawaii is worth three or maybe four trips to Utah!

I wouldn't say that...I went to Hawaii two summers ago..it was a free family trip..my brother in laws family is from Hawaii so we got a tour of Oahu. We stayed in Waikiki..while it was a fun trip with lots of drinking and boogie boarding..there was no way it compared to the fun of a ski trip. The crazy amount of flight time ensures that I will most likely not return to Hawaii..unless I meet that special someone and she wants to go..
 

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I am going to Colorado to ski for my first time this April (early April) during my spring break from school. I got a really good deal on Expedia for Winter park.
 
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