Who Wants a Six Pack Lift????

[AdironRider]

I like the Attitash idea. That mountain is pretty cool IMO, but that chair just pisses everyone off.

But I dont see the point of getting a six pack chair to run it at quad capacity. If they want impact it needs to go in the best location (in terms of the manufacturers ideal scenario) where it will have the best impact in terms of efficiency, its main purpose. If the company were to send it to MRG for example and its tracked out by ten, thats going to end up having a negative effect. But send it to an area with the proper layout and needs there, you have a winner. A place with enough terrain, decent customer base, and a major need for a new lift, and you're going to have a win win for both the ski area and the manufacturer.

Going back to Attitash, yes it does need a new lift, but theres no way Attitash itself can support a six pack running at 6 pack capacity. Bear peak could though. Those trails are big wide and make up a pretty large trail pod for the east coast. So they pull the HSQ they have now and move it to Attitash proper and put the 6 pack on Bear.

This is my ideal scenario, and would immediately put Attitash into major contention. They can then dump more money into snowmaking and go top 5 if you ask me.

 

[Riverskier]

I like the Attitash idea. That mountain is pretty cool IMO, but that chair just pisses everyone off.

But I dont see the point of getting a six pack chair to run it at quad capacity. If they want impact it needs to go in the best location (in terms of the manufacturers ideal scenario) where it will have the best impact in terms of efficiency, its main purpose. If the company were to send it to MRG for example and its tracked out by ten, thats going to end up having a negative effect. But send it to an area with the proper layout and needs there, you have a winner. A place with enough terrain, decent customer base, and a major need for a new lift, and you're going to have a win win for both the ski area and the manufacturer.

Going back to Attitash, yes it does need a new lift, but theres no way Attitash itself can support a six pack running at 6 pack capacity. Bear peak could though. Those trails are big wide and make up a pretty large trail pod for the east coast. So they pull the HSQ they have now and move it to Attitash proper and put the 6 pack on Bear.

This is my ideal scenario, and would immediately put Attitash into major contention. They can then dump more money into snowmaking and go top 5 if you ask me.

Top 5 what?

 

[speden]

I think a six pack works best at places that get slammed with skiers, so I'd give it to Mt. Sunapee to replace the current Sunapee Express HSQ. You'd want to give it to a place that could show other resorts the awesome lifting power a six pack can provide, and Sunapee would fit that bill. Go there on a Saturday, and guess where the bottleneck forms, in the lines to get on the Sunapee Express. It's the backbone of the operation, and yet it can't keep up with the weekend demand.

Sunapee can afford to maintain a six pack and show it off. Sure, some of the summit trails are already too crowded, but you expect that when you go to a place like Sunapee on a weekend, so those customers would rather fight their way down overloaded trails than stand in line for 20 minutes. People that know the place could still find underused trails and avoid the crowds.

Then Sunapee could sell the HSQ and use the money to put in more parking spaces and add a fixed grip quad from the base of the Sunbowl to the North Peak, helping to spread out the traffic and making it easier to lap some of their bump runs.

 

[Edd]

Top 5 what?

My question exactly.

 

[x10003q]

Whiteface could replace the Little WF double. You would have about 4500ft of length and 1550ft of vertical serving some of the best terrain at WF. You could expect the Gov of NYS to show up to thank you for this wonderful gift and all the news services would pick up the story. You might even get some international play because of the the 1980 Winter Olympics and all the events that are still held at Lake Placid.

 

[cannonist]

SR

I know it's not the most exciting place in the world to put a new six pack, but what about Aurora basin at Sunday River? I dont mind the current Aurora chair, but it would really spread the crowds out across the whole mountain as apposed to the jordan bowl side or from north peak on to white cap. Another interesting idea I have heard was to put a new lift up vortex changing Aurora all together. That way you could ski part of spruce as well.

 

[Edd]

I know it's not the most exciting place in the world to put a new six pack, but what about Aurora basin at Sunday River? I dont mind the current Aurora chair, but it would really spread the crowds out across the whole mountain as apposed to the jordan bowl side or from north peak on to white cap. Another interesting idea I have heard was to put a new lift up vortex changing Aurora all together. That way you could ski part of spruce as well.

The Aurora area is underused compared to other parts of the mountain. The current fixed quad handles skiers passing through pretty well. A six pack there seems pointless.

A chair to the top of Vortex is interesting but Vortex can be tough to keep open some days and doesn't attract too many skiers due to it's pitch.

 

[deadheadskier]

I like the Attitash idea. That mountain is pretty cool IMO, but that chair just pisses everyone off.

But I dont see the point of getting a six pack chair to run it at quad capacity. If they want impact it needs to go in the best location (in terms of the manufacturers ideal scenario) where it will have the best impact in terms of efficiency, its main purpose. If the company were to send it to MRG for example and its tracked out by ten, thats going to end up having a negative effect. But send it to an area with the proper layout and needs there, you have a winner. A place with enough terrain, decent customer base, and a major need for a new lift, and you're going to have a win win for both the ski area and the manufacturer.

Going back to Attitash, yes it does need a new lift, but theres no way Attitash itself can support a six pack running at 6 pack capacity. Bear peak could though. Those trails are big wide and make up a pretty large trail pod for the east coast. So they pull the HSQ they have now and move it to Attitash proper and put the 6 pack on Bear.

This is my ideal scenario, and would immediately put Attitash into major contention. They can then dump more money into snowmaking and go top 5 if you ask me.

agree that it does not appear to have the terrain to support a six. This just from what ive read and see on the map as i have not skied there in over 20 years.

Some mountains do run six packs at quad capacity. Ragged would be one of them. The benefit of a six over a quad is the added weight of the chair helps quite a bit in reducing wind hold.

 

[bvibert]

Some mountains do run six packs at quad capacity. Ragged would be one of them. The benefit of a six over a quad is the added weight of the chair helps quite a bit in reducing wind hold.

I'm not sure what Ragged's plans are, but I'd think the biggest advantage to installing a 6 pack at quad capacity would be the ability to easily increase capacity by adding more chairs down the road if an expansion is planned.

 

[Mildcat]

Another interesting idea I have heard was to put a new lift up vortex changing Aurora all together. That way you could ski part of spruce as well.

NO NO NO! Leave Vortex alone! :uzi: :lol:

 

[deadheadskier]

nahh

Vortex should be seeded wall to wall all season long.

 

[bvibert]

nahh

Vortex should be seeded wall to wall all season long.

:beer:

 

[Mildcat]

nahh

Vortex should be seeded wall to wall all season long.

Now I like that idea.

 

[mondeo]

Snowdon replacement.

Geoff in 3, 2, 1, ...

 

[Riverskier]

I know it's not the most exciting place in the world to put a new six pack, but what about Aurora basin at Sunday River? I dont mind the current Aurora chair, but it would really spread the crowds out across the whole mountain as apposed to the jordan bowl side or from north peak on to white cap. Another interesting idea I have heard was to put a new lift up vortex changing Aurora all together. That way you could ski part of spruce as well.

Most days the fixed grip quad at Aurora is ski on. Sure the lift is a little slow, but they already have excess capacity there, so I wouldn't see any point in increasing it even further. Not to mention the fact that the Aurora trail pod itself is really only 3 trails. If I was going to put in a high speed six pack at Sunday River, I would put it at Barker. Barker is the busiest area of the mountain and often has long lines on weekends and holidays even with a high speed quad. I would then take the high speed quad and replace the Tempest lift. The ride up that Tempest lift is probably the slowest and most frustrating on the mountain. I think more people would use the White Cap lodge if you could take a quick lift ride out of there. Personally I think Sunday River's lift system is more than sufficient and the only lift I would replace to increase capacity or speed (obviously age or mechanical issues are another story) would be the Tempest Quad.

 

[BeanoNYC]

Tuckerman's

 

[millerm277]

Blue Mountain, PA. Then you could have 16 seats of HS capacity out of the base area, and an even more entertaining disaster on the trails....

 

[andrec10]

Tuckerman's

Now that would be cool! Better in the Wind too!

 

[catskills]

Plattekill

Plattekill has way more trail capacity than lift capacity, which means low skier/rider crowds on the trails. Plattekill is one of the few places on the Northeast that could get a Hight Speed Six and still not be over crowded on the slopes.

Besides, a free high speed six for Plattekill could be the difference between going out of business or not going out of business.

 

[millerm277]

Plattekill has way more trail capacity than lift capacity, which means low skier/rider crowds on the trails. Plattekill is one of the few places on the Northeast that could get a Hight Speed Six and still not be over crowded on the slopes.

Besides, a free high speed six for Plattekill could be the difference between going out of business or not going out of business.

While it'd be awesome, I personally think giving Plattekill a HSS would put them in Ragged Mountain's position. They don't get the traffic to support the $$$ it costs to run, and don't have the snowmaking to support the traffic if they did. All personal opinion, but I think it'd be too much unless you're giving him a couple million for upgrades and advertising.