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This isn't a soccer nation until people stop celebrating just making it out of the group round. The expectation for sports in this country should be to win.

They beat a team that didn't score a single goal in three games. Whippee!

What about women's soccer?

That's one thing I don't understand. US men's soccer pretty much sucks internationally, yet our women's team has been one of the best in the world for the past 20 years.
 

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What about women's soccer?

That's one thing I don't understand. US men's soccer pretty much sucks internationally, yet our women's team has been one of the best in the world for the past 20 years.


women's team was in at the ground floor of the game's development and growth.

men's team chasing half of a century of experience and expertise by the rest of the world.
 

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Not so much if you're from England, or otherwise rooting for them... ;)

LOL, I wrote that when it was 2-1 and looked like England was going to make it a game. Very happy with the result however. Snowmonster? not so much ...
 

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LOL, I wrote that when it was 2-1 and looked like England was going to make it a game. Very happy with the result however. Snowmonster? not so much ...

It certainly went from bad to worse very quickly for England there didn't it? I watched from like 55 minutes on. Like you said it looked like a game for a little bit there.
 

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What about women's soccer?

That's one thing I don't understand. US men's soccer pretty much sucks internationally, yet our women's team has been one of the best in the world for the past 20 years.

women's team was in at the ground floor of the game's development and growth.

men's team chasing half of a century of experience and expertise by the rest of the world.
This. Also, its growth has coincided with increased athletic participation by girls in general, and so doesn't have the same built-in competition from other sports. Plus daddy doesn't live vicariously though little Susy, so parents aren't as likely to push girls into the traditional sports.

But this is the men's world cup.
 

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This. Also, its growth has coincided with increased athletic participation by girls in general, and so doesn't have the same built-in competition from other sports. Plus daddy doesn't live vicariously though little Susy, so parents aren't as likely to push girls into the traditional sports.

But this is the men's world cup.

I understand that it's men's.

One thing I think is a big difference is that top girl athletes stay in soccer where as athleticly gifted boys tend to gravitate towards sports in high school that the pros have bigger pay days. If a teenager plays both soccer and baseball and pro baseball scouts tell him he's got a chance of making the major leagues, the focus shifts to baseball even if he might like soccer more.

Girls don't have the same $$$ opportunity in athletics so they continue to play the sport they like best.
 

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LOL, I wrote that when it was 2-1 and looked like England was going to make it a game. Very happy with the result however. Snowmonster? not so much ...

GROAN...Have to hand it to the Germans though. Even if THAT goal was counted, England would have eventually lost because of a porous and slow defense and shaky goalkeeping. Time to let go of 4-4-2 and install a sweeper. Die Manschaft played to its strengths -- tight defense and quick precise counterattacks. They were actually a joy to watch. My only wish was for the final score to be 4-2 to complete the parallels to the '66 game.

Germany v. Argentina will be one helluva match.

P.S., I think technology will eventually aid the referees. Too many controversial calls/non-calls in this WC. The speed of the modern game and the availability of technology (and the possibility that officiating mistakes will discredit the WC) will make it inevitable.
 

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My $.02. While I agree that MLS is not up to European standards, I believe the quality of game has improved over the last few years. With the building of some of these soccer only venues (example the new Red Bull Arena here in NJ) I think it will improve even more. The performance of the US team despite the loss will help. I watched some of the Philadelphia Union - Seattle game Sunday and it wasn't bad. I definitely think I'll go catch a Red Bull game one evening this summer. It will never catch the more popular US sports but It can form its own niche much like the NHL (another of my favorite sports).

Boy FIFA is going to be under the gun after this World Cup. They seem to relish in the controversy but its kinda of a stain. They could give an award to the most hosed team. It was the US till that England non goal. The Mexicans got hosed too. I really hope the final doesn't go to penalty kicks. Still some interesting and good soccer to be watched. The European - South American angle is always interesting to watch. Ger - Arg will be fun to watch Saturday at brunch.

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Not a soccer fan but the Germans were fun to watch -------------I can't understanf FIFA's reluctance to use technology to determine IF a gosl was scored -- seems to be a no-brainer unless the governing board are Luddites :D
 

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Seems we have a healthy amount of interest in the World Cup among AZers. Let me know if any of you in the Boston area want to watch a game at a pub. I was with madpadraic (he doesn't post as often anymore) yesterday for the England-Germany game. Good times!
 

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Wow, busy weekend with my 14 year old...playing soccer of course.

Recap...Germans kicked ass. Always a strong team. Germany/Argentina will be an excellent match.

Brazil destroyed Chile today...another top team.

US fell in love with the attack and left themselves open to too many counterattacks which the Ghanians are really good at executing. That and giving up early goals in every match led to their downfall.

Soccer is a tough sport to play when you are behind in the score most of the time.
 

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I think people try to present opinion as fact.


this thread was entertaining to read though.
 

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Boy FIFA is going to be under the gun after this World Cup. They seem to relish in the controversy but its kinda of a stain. They could give an award to the most hosed team. It was the US till that England non goal. The Mexicans got hosed too. I really hope the final doesn't go to penalty kicks. Still some interesting and good soccer to be watched. The European - South American angle is always interesting to watch. Ger - Arg will be fun to watch Saturday at brunch.

Alex

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The refereeing reminds me of judging during the figure skating at the Olympics. Unabashed politics and nationalism.

It's funny because the refs at the youth level here mimic World Cup to a T. Watching it on TV when it's for real makes it easier for me to watch with my kids.

I hate the penalty kick tie breaker...as much as I hate the penalty shot tiebreaker in hockey.
 

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This maybe the dumbest thing I've ever heard. FIFA will no longer even show replays of goals in the stadium due to the Mexican team becoming upset when they saw Argentina offsides during their 1st allowed goal of the game.

http://www.boston.com/sports/soccer/articles/2010/06/29/fifa_to_pull_plugs_on_replays/

:blink:

I really can't get behind an argument of not using instant replay technology to get calls right. Soccer might be the the one sport where it makes the most sense due to goals being so infrequent.

........but to censor replays on the Jumbotron? :blink:
 

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I thought they had chip technology available to verify goals? Wouldn't that be better than replay?
 

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This maybe the dumbest thing I've ever heard. FIFA will no longer even show replays of goals in the stadium due to the Mexican team becoming upset when they saw Argentina offsides during their 1st allowed goal of the game.

http://www.boston.com/sports/soccer/articles/2010/06/29/fifa_to_pull_plugs_on_replays/

:blink:

I really can't get behind an argument of not using instant replay technology to get calls right. Soccer might be the the one sport where it makes the most sense due to goals being so infrequent.

........but to censor replays on the Jumbotron? :blink:
Wow, they're going the wrong way!

I've been trying to figure out how using instant replay to validate goals would work out in soccer. It seems like it would interrupt the flow of game too much, which is one of the good things about soccer, the game (and the clock) keep going.
 
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