Your definition of 'tracked out'???

[deadheadskier]

What's yours??

After reading a couple posts today by rivercoil about Jay being 'tracked out' by ten and Geoff commenting on powder days are too frantic in the east compared to the west where competition is less....got me thinking what do you consider 'tracked out'??

My ski bum days back in Stowe I could always find at least a few pillowy cushion turns in the woods DAYS after the storm. When Johnskiismore and I hit a certain woods shot at Cannon there were several wind loaded great turns to be had during one shot we skied.

Eatsleepski had a nice TR from Wildcat with some great virgin snow he found this weekend several days after a storm.

For me, it ain't 'tracked out' until I can't find at least a couple turns in my day where I get boot deep.

what say you?

 

[St. Bear]

For me, it ain't 'tracked out' until I can't find at least a couple turns in my day where I get boot deep.

Tracked out to me means that all the top snow has been pushed to the sides of the trail and the middle is hardpack that's tough to grab an edge. But I'm used to skiing Mountain Creek in Jersey, so I'm sure my tolerance for a "tracked out" trail is much higher than a lot of people on this forum.

 

[riverc0il]

To me, tracked out = no untracked lines. I usually add a disclaimer of rough approximation such as somewhat, mostly, or completely tracked out to indicate if I could find *any* untracked lines. And when I refer to an "untracked line", that to me is any series of turns made through powder that has no previous tracks, even if it is only a one yard wide wiggle. I tend to call "tracked out" skiing sloppy seconds, which is tracked out powder and still really fun.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Well Riveroil is one of the most faircondition skiers on here..anyway for out west my definition of tracked out is when you can no longer make the majority of your turns in untracked powder..crossing others tracks doesn't matter to me, it's being able to make your turn in fresh. For the east I'm a little looser and skiing cutup powder in the east still isn't tracked out..it's not tracked out until it's essentially packed powder.

 

[JD]

If I'm crossing tracks it's tracked out.

 

[drjeff]

If I can't find a line where I'm not crossing anyones previously laid down tracks for a series of say 10 turns, then it's tracked out in my book. Still darn fun, but tracked out - That's my East Coast definition

When I go out West. Different story. A full line(no matter how many turns it is) without crossing anyone's tracks - if I can't do that, then it's tracked out, and once again generally speaking still pretty darn fun!

 

[Geoff]

For me, it's when the conditions transition to "cut-up powder" where you are skiing more than 50% on lightly skier-packed surface and the untracked is clumps where you have to focus on staying centered as you hit them. In the old skinny ski days, that was always a challenging condition. With a beefy 86mm waist all mountain ski, it's no particular effort to absorb the speed change and stay centered.

Anything less than that I would refer to as "lightly tracked". You ski that surface exactly as if it had no tracks on it at all since you're not going to notice any particular change in resistance as you cross the tracks.

As drjeff says, my criteria in big mountain skiing is different. "Lightly tracked" and "tracked out" start converging.

 

[tjf67]

Tracked out= the snow is no longer fluffy. It is ground in packed powder. The woods fast cause the fluffy snow is no longer there to slow you down.


You comment on people out west is way off. Those people are flat out asses on a powder day. At least from my experience. And no I am not an expert on the subject

 

[drjeff]

Tracked out= the snow is no longer fluffy. It is ground in packed powder. The woods fast cause the fluffy snow is no longer there to slow you down.


You comment on people out west is way off. Those people are flat out asses on a powder day. At least from my experience. And no I am not an expert on the subject

Depends on where you are out West and what you're looking to ski. 1st tracks down a signature run at Vail on a powder day is going to be a sh$tshow no if ands or buts about it. BUT, by 10AM on that same day, the acreage factor of many Western resorts kicks in, and without out much effort in many places, you can ski basically untracked runs all day(s) on a powder day - throw in late opening parts of the mountain do to avi control work and that also works to the untracked advantage out West.

 

[tjf67]

Depends on where you are out West and what you're looking to ski. 1st tracks down a signature run at Vail on a powder day is going to be a sh$tshow no if ands or buts about it. BUT, by 10AM on that same day, the acreage factor of many Western resorts kicks in, and without out much effort in many places, you can ski basically untracked runs all day(s) on a powder day - throw in late opening parts of the mountain do to avi control work and that also works to the untracked advantage out West.

When a new lift opens because the avi danger has been resolved you better not be in the way of getting to the lift. They will run you, your child and anything else in the way over to get there first. AH the sweet sounds of bombs going off in the morning at a resort has a special place in my heart.

 

[rsf0000001]

It's not "tracked out" until it's a mogul run! And then it's just a different type of fun!

 

[Greg]

Tracked out = powder bumplets. And I'm just fine with that.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Tracked out = powder bumplets. And I'm just fine with that.

as long as there's not ice in the troughs..powder bumps with chalky troughs is..

 

[Geoff]

When a new lift opens because the avi danger has been resolved you better not be in the way of getting to the lift. They will run you, your child and anything else in the way over to get there first. AH the sweet sounds of bombs going off in the morning at a resort has a special place in my heart.

Aaah... A description of the famous Western Powder Nazi. The worst place for them is Snowbird. They own the mountain and you have a lot of nerve being anywhere near where they want to go on a powder day. I've traded elbow shots more'n once on a traverse right after they dropped the rope. I'm usually 6" taller and 100 pounds heavier so I invariably win in that exchange. I ski Killington. I'm a master at full contact skiing.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Aaah... A description of the famous Western Powder Nazi. The worst place for them is Snowbird. They own the mountain and you have a lot of nerve being anywhere near where they want to go on a powder day. I've traded elbow shots more'n once on a traverse right after they dropped the rope. I'm usually 6" taller and 100 pounds heavier so I invariably win in that exchange. I ski Killington. I'm a master at full contact skiing.

Hell yeah...I love the powderday free for all..I'm not proud of it but 5 years back at Bridger Bowl MT..there was this old lady getting the last of the fresh on the side of a trail...I straightlined..cut right in front of her..and slashed the hell out of any leftlover freshies..Grandma was too slow..

 

[SIKSKIER]

Tracked out for me is when all thats left is green and granite.

 

[sLoPeS]

Aaah... A description of the famous Western Powder Nazi. The worst place for them is Snowbird. They own the mountain and you have a lot of nerve being anywhere near where they want to go on a powder day. I've traded elbow shots more'n once on a traverse right after they dropped the rope. I'm usually 6" taller and 100 pounds heavier so I invariably win in that exchange. I ski Killington. I'm a master at full contact skiing.

killington totally makes me a better full contact skier!

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

killington totally makes me a better full contact skier!

Blue mountain makes me a better full cantact skier...I weave the noodle to the max..

 

[sLoPeS]

Blue mountain makes me a better full cantact skier...I weave the noodle to the max..

haha, do u know the best way to cross a ski trail?..........poles UP! (heavy jerzey accent) nobody messes with ski poles......nobody

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

haha, do u know the best way to cross a ski trail?..........poles UP! (heavy jerzey accent) nobody messes with ski poles......nobody

I sometimes ski with my poles out to the side..for extra space..Jersey....although I met Hardline and Root and neither one of them has a strong NJ accent,.,.