This is going to get us coming and going

drjeff · Oct 1, 2014

bobbutts said:
I think you have it backwards. The energy, insurance, and health care industries are involved in government, legislating themselves monopoly power and lax regulations.

Folks should read Inside the Koch Brothers' Toxic Empire from this month's Rolling Stone Magazine.
This is your "conservative" GOP.

Is big industry actually "regulating" themselves via government intervention or are they "forced" to try and regulate themselves (and often this comes by working to regulate competitors out of their business market) because of government regulation, often in the form of overreaching actions?

And for all the left's cries of "Koch brothers this" or "Koch brothers that" they're (the left) sure are awfully quiet about the actions of Soros, Buffet, etc to push their agenda - its a 2 way street if you really want to have a conversation about big money donor influences

Highway Star · Oct 1, 2014

BenedictGomez said:
Lets make gas more expensive and worse for your cars, because of some absurdly small perceived environmental "benefit", which is highly debatable to begin with.

You're an idiot.

Puck it · Oct 1, 2014

bobbutts said:
I think you have it backwards. The energy, insurance, and health care industries are involved in government, legislating themselves monopoly power and lax regulations.

Folks should read Inside the Koch Brothers' Toxic Empire from this month's Rolling Stone Magazine.
This is your "conservative" GOP.

Great source of info. The mag that put the Marathon bombers on the cover.

twinplanx · Oct 1, 2014

Highway Star said:
You're an idiot.

That sums up this entire thread.

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Puck it · Oct 1, 2014

Highway Star said:
You're an idiot.

You are an idiot. The Feds mandate ethanol in our gas which lowers the efficiency and inflating corn prices. Great idea.

deadheadskier · Oct 1, 2014

drjeff said:
Is big industry actually "regulating" themselves via government intervention or are they "forced" to try and regulate themselves (and often this comes by working to regulate competitors out of their business market) because of government regulation, often in the form of overreaching actions?

And for all the left's cries of "Koch brothers this" or "Koch brothers that" they're (the left) sure are awfully quiet about the actions of Soros, Buffet, etc to push their agenda - its a 2 way street if you really want to have a conversation about big money donor influences

Not entirely 2 ways. 1 party wants citizens united and to keep money in politics. 1 doesn't

Puck it · Oct 1, 2014

deadheadskier said:
Not entirely 2 ways. 1 party wants citizens united and to keep money in politics. 1 doesn't

You really believe that. And which side is which.

Two words - George Soros.

BenedictGomez · Oct 1, 2014

bobbutts said:
I think you have it backwards. The energy, insurance, and health care industries are involved in government, legislating themselves monopoly power and lax regulations.

LOL. The cows run the farm, not the farmer!

drjeff said:
And for all the left's cries of "Koch brothers this" or "Koch brothers that" they're (the left) sure are awfully quiet about the actions of Soros, Buffet, etc to push their agenda - its a 2 way street if you really want to have a conversation about big money donor influences

It's not even a two-way street. Soros is like Godzilla and the Koch brothers are like Bambi if you compare total political donations.

The reality is the Koch brothers are just the left's new fund-raising boogeyman designed to scare. Every political mailer to registered Democrats now is "donate $xx to help us fight the Koch brothers" money to "big business" etc... = lulz. Effective spoon-fed messaging.

Highway Star said:
You're an idiot.

Look who showed up to join the party with his usual high-brow intellectualism. The guy who cant comprehend why future skier visits and skier revenue are not going to be a perpetually climbing staircase!

deadheadskier · Oct 1, 2014

The vote just happened. 1 side wants citizens united to go away one doesn't. Fact not opinion.

BenedictGomez · Oct 1, 2014

deadheadskier said:
Not entirely 2 ways. 1 party wants citizens united and to keep money in politics. 1 doesn't

Holy crap. Really? You seriously believe this? Honestly, I could write "War & Peace" on this subject, but I'm weary from debunking Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert show with a side of New York Times talking point myths in one day.

SHORT VERSION: Democrats are more than happy to keep the "correct" money fully IN politics (Unions, Lawyers, etc...), as long as the "incorrect" money (Oil, NRA, etc..) is excluded and impaired.

Cannonball · Oct 1, 2014

Thank god AZ doesn't allow political discussions. Otherwise this thread really could have gotten offtrack

uke:

Smellytele · Oct 1, 2014

Puck it said:
You are an idiot. The Feds mandate ethanol in our gas which lowers the efficiency and inflating corn prices. Great idea.

Then with inflated corn prices Mexicans have a hard time surviving and jump the boarder or start killing each other over drug territory. Also with high corn prices raising livestock becomes more expensive driving up meat prices.

drjeff · Oct 1, 2014

BenedictGomez said:
Holy crap. Really? You seriously believe this? Honestly, I could write "War & Peace" on this subject, but I'm weary from debunking Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert show with a side of New York Times talking point myths in one day.

SHORT VERSION: Democrats are more than happy to keep the "correct" money fully IN politics (Unions, Lawyers, etc...), as long as the "incorrect" money (Oil, NRA, etc..) is excluded and impaired.

And we have the winning answer!

Edd · Oct 1, 2014

Cannonball said:
Thank god AZ doesn't allow political discussions. Otherwise this thread really could have gotten offtrack uke:

I like the increased permissiveness. I'd say nobody gets offended about 99% of the time but it's not like I'm the one fielding complaints so I wouldn't know.

deadheadskier · Oct 1, 2014

BenedictGomez said:
Holy crap. Really? You seriously believe this? Honestly, I could write "War & Peace" on this subject, but I'm weary from debunking Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert show with a side of New York Times talking point myths in one day.

SHORT VERSION: Democrats are more than happy to keep the "correct" money fully IN politics (Unions, Lawyers, etc...), as long as the "incorrect" money (Oil, NRA, etc..) is excluded and impaired.

Vote happened. Spin it however you like. Scoreboard doesn't lie.

And that's it for me. Cannonball is right. Sorry, the skiing Limbaugh gets me worked up. I'll ignore.

Cannonball · Oct 1, 2014

Edd said:
I like the increased permissiveness.

I'm not a big fan. Although, if the comments in this thread represent a cross-section of the skiing community it will help motivate me to get more solo backcountry days

Highway Star · Oct 1, 2014

Puck it said:
You are an idiot. The Feds mandate ethanol in our gas which lowers the efficiency and inflating corn prices. Great idea.

You too, are an idiot.

BenedictGomez · Oct 1, 2014

drjeff said:
And we have the winning answer!

To be completely fair, BOTH political parties will do virtually anything to gain an edge over the other party.

But to honestly believe that the real reason the Democrats are against "Citizens United" has ANYTHING to do with keeping money out of politics as they claim, is, ......well.....I mean......

Edd said:
I like the increased permissiveness. I'd say nobody gets offended about 99% of the time but it's not like I'm the one fielding complaints so I wouldn't know.

Agreed. We're all adults here and even after arguments people generally get along, and even during arguments it's generally quite civil.

Well, other than the occasional troll who solely chimes in with, "you're an idiot" of course, but you'd have that same response from that same individual in a thread about sunshine and kittens.

Highway Star · Oct 1, 2014

Smellytele said:
Then with inflated corn prices Mexicans have a hard time surviving and jump the boarder or start killing each other over drug territory. Also with high corn prices raising livestock becomes more expensive driving up meat prices.

Wow. You're also a massively under informed idiot.

Edd · Oct 1, 2014

Cannonball said:
I'm not a big fan. Although, if the comments in this thread represent a cross-section of the skiing community it will help motivate me to get more solo backcountry days

Yeah, admittedly, this thread is a disaster.

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