Steepest slope in the east

[GrizzlyFD]

Staircase/Everglade are a couple of my favorite trails at Jay! My favorite marked trail is Valhalla, unmarked and #1 overall is P.H. Of course first tracks in Beaver Pond aint too bad niether.
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so how steep is staircase? i love valhalla

Staircase has some steep drop offs, and then levels out near the bottom for a real nice glade that doesn't get tracked out that much. The top is almost never open because of the wind so you sometimes have to find altenate roots to get into the glade. The steepest marked trails at Jay are the face the top of green beret and upper river quai.

In a good snow year, there is an unmarked trail between the face and tucks chutes called the check that is pretty steep (consistently). You actually ski on top of some small pine trees all the way down.

 

[NHpowderhound]

The best part about Staircase is the top almost always looks like a boneyard with lots of steep exposed rocks and stumps. However when once you get 25yards in its total coverage. Helps keep the tourists out. :lol:
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[takeahike46er]

alright i think this is the 5 most popular votes so far
freefall smuggs
snowfields sugarloaf east side/backside(im just going to make it general cause it is all about the same, and some of it never even opens)
Paradise MRG
face chutes jayor anywere else in that area
and the last spot im debating over blackhole sunday river or rumor at gore what do u think

Unquestionably The Rumor should be included.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/280275869/280275869HeHnAs
http://community.webshots.com/photo/265588277/265588277FPeZkW

 

[awf170]

alright i think this is the 5 most popular votes so far
freefall smuggs
snowfields sugarloaf east side/backside(im just going to make it general cause it is all about the same, and some of it never even opens)
Paradise MRG
face chutes jayor anywere else in that area
and the last spot im debating over blackhole sunday river or rumor at gore what do u think

Unquestionably The Rumor should be included.

http://community.webshots.com/photo/280275869/280275869HeHnAs
http://community.webshots.com/photo/265588277/265588277FPeZkW

alright i guess, still doesnt look that steep compared to the other stuff but ill include it

 

[takeahike46er]

Not steep!?

Compare it to a shot of White Nitro. It stacks up. Ski it. Believe it.

WN
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Rumor
http://image34.webshots.com/34/8/82/77/265588277FPeZkW_ph.jpg


on the right...

 

[awf170]

that is not the steep part of white nitro and what is on my list is not white nitro it is pure heat which is steeper

im not trying to say it is not steep im just saying it doesnt look like it is steep enough for that list

and im not positive with my arguement thats why i put it on the list still

 

[ALLSKIING]

Its very hard to go by just looking at pictures. It all depends on how the pic it taken if it looks steep or not.

 

[awf170]

Its very hard to go by just looking at pictures. It all depends on how the pic it taken if it looks steep or not.

have you skiied rumor and if you did what do you think of it

 

[ski_resort_observer]

I remember Goat Trail at Stowe as being steep, there was a trail at Magic that I remember as being pretty steep but can't remember the name. Stein at the Bush is pretty steep.

 

[ALLSKIING]

Its very hard to go by just looking at pictures. It all depends on how the pic it taken if it looks steep or not.

have you skiied rumor and if you did what do you think of it

No never even been to Gore.

 

[dmc]

Lower K27 at Hunter was pretty steep at the top this year due to some agressive snowmaking

 

[ALLSKIING]

Lower K27 at Hunter was pretty steep at the top this year due to some agressive snowmaking

Thats some serious vert. :wink:

 

[awf170]

I remember Goat Trail at Stowe as being steep, there was a trail at Magic that I remember as being pretty steep but can't remember the name. Stein at the Bush is pretty steep.

ya got is steep but i still didnt think it was steep enough for that list, nice trail though

 

[JimG.]

I remember Goat Trail at Stowe as being steep, there was a trail at Magic that I remember as being pretty steep but can't remember the name. Stein at the Bush is pretty steep.

The headwall on Goat is steep, but short; same story on Starr, the headwall is very steep but only 5 turns or so long.

I believe Redline is the trail at Magic that you mention.

 

[awf170]

I remember Goat Trail at Stowe as being steep, there was a trail at Magic that I remember as being pretty steep but can't remember the name. Stein at the Bush is pretty steep.

The headwall on Goat is steep, but short; same story on Starr, the headwall is very steep but only 5 turns or so long.

I believe Redline is the trail at Magic that you mention.

i thought starr was steeper than goat for a short amount... i remember talking to some one on the lift about goat and they made it sound so hard and said i should never do it alone and then it did it was like that is, not that hard(it would have been really easy if the whole trail had snow on it) now goat woods looks sick

 

[JimG.]

i thought starr was steeper than goat for a short amount... i remember talking to some one on the lift about goat and they made it sound so hard and said i should never do it alone and then it did it was like that is, not that hard(it would have been really easy if the whole trail had snow on it) now goat woods looks sick

Starr is a little steeper; the trees next to Goat are awesome!

 

[ctenidae]

Has anyone actually collected data on runs to see what's steep and what isn't? I want to head out to Sunapee (where I know the trails best) and hike some of them, to get an idea of what steep is. Does anyone know what the "average" slope is?

 

[awf170]

Has anyone actually collected data on runs to see what's steep and what isn't? I want to head out to Sunapee (where I know the trails best) and hike some of them, to get an idea of what steep is. Does anyone know what the "average" slope is?

all that i figured out is that 3 to 1 length and to vertical ratio and steeper is ussually black terrian and 4 to 1 is average intermiaite terrian so with so math you figure out the slope.... my guess is about 15-20 degrees

 

[ctenidae]

Interesting thought there, awf. Gonna have to remember trig to figure it out.

This is pretty cool, though-
http://www.couloirmag.com/articles/techniques/slope_angles/angle_estimation.htm

If you see anyone out playing with poles this winter, you'll know they're an AZ'er.

 

[awf170]

Has anyone actually collected data on runs to see what's steep and what isn't? I want to head out to Sunapee (where I know the trails best) and hike some of them, to get an idea of what steep is. Does anyone know what the "average" slope is?

all that i figured out is that 3 to 1 length and to vertical ratio and steeper is ussually black terrian and 4 to 1 is average intermiaite terrian so with so math you figure out the slope.... my guess is about 15-20 degrees

i drew them i just dont have a protectator to figure it out... here is an example of some lifts
Wildcat Express Quad - 6,700 feet vertical 2,112
Bear Peak Quad Killington- 2,833 feet vertical 1,184
Rams head quad killington- 5,499 feet vertical 1,073
Snowshead quad killnington- 3,576 feet vertical 560
And the north peak triple is about 3,000 ft vertical 1,000