Radical Prediction Thread

[Greg]

So, you don't think those types of comments hurt Whiteface's image?

You don't think Whiteface has lost out on some skier visits because of those NY stereotypes?

You began this thread by predicting that Whiteface will be the premier ski destination in the East...don't those stereotypes work against your prediction and desire?

Just asking and trying to get this back on topic.

As HPD pointed out with his distances from NYC post earlier in this thread, their target demographic probably is NYC anyway so the NY stereotype is a moot point. No matter how good Whiteface is or becomes, they are going to struggle convincing Beantowners to bypass NH or VT for the ADKs. In this respect, it is indeed just too far...

I never thought I say that I'm happy I'm from CT. :blink: No New Yawker stereotype, no Masshole stereotype...

 

[ctenidae]

Whatever... I've seen it - I've lived it... It exists... I would never say EVERYONE in VT is like that -
but it does exist... the bumper stickers and the other acts of anomousity.

And it DOES make me mad.. But - it's not really an issue anymore - i really don't go to VT much...
Killington isnt open early and late anymore - MRG doesnt allow me to ride there - Sugarbush is always an option... Stowe/Jay are a little too far for me..

Is it still okay to make comments regarding the hygene of telemarkers, snowboarders, and drummers? Because that's based entirely on nothing, but it makes for lightening the mood a little bit.

:beer:

 

[dmc]

Is it still okay to make comments regarding the hygene of telemarkers, snowboarders, and drummers? Because that's based entirely on nothing, but it makes for lightening the mood a little bit.

:beer:

Suuuuuuuuuuuuure...
Whatever - it's your board!

 

[JimG.]

As HPD pointed out with his distances from NYC post earlier in this thread, their target demographic probably is NYC anyway so the NY stereotype is a moot point. No matter how good Whiteface is or becomes, they are going to struggle convincing Beantowners to bypass NH or VT for the ADKs. In this respect, it is indeed just too far...

I never thought I say that I'm happy I'm from CT. :blink: No New Yawker stereotype, no Masshole stereotype...

You are knowledgeable about these specifics...most skiers planning a trip ARE NOT.

Who says Whiteface is targeting Bostonians? Your telling me that Burlington is too far from Whiteface for people who live there to go try it out? Or for that matter any of the towns in northern VT/NH? Folks won't drive 3-4 hours to try out a new place they've never been? No way.

I went to college in NH...when I told people I was from NY, they just assumed I was from NYC. Let me rephrase that...they just assumed that all of NY was like NYC. I brought a buddy from VT home for Thanksgiving one year and he was shocked to find we had deer and rabbits and other wildlife in our backyard. He was shocked we had a backyard...he assumed all of NY was buried under concrete.

Stereotypes are very hurtful.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Yep, we've gotten off topic and I'm partly responsible. Can anyone think of a controversial ski related topic we could all debate? Maybe it could be a separate thread.

 

[dmc]

I never thought I say that I'm happy I'm from CT. :blink: No New Yawker stereotype, no Masshole stereotype...

Not that you know of at least... Believe me - I've heard a lot...

 

[dmc]

Stereotypes are very hurtful.

The Huntah stereotype has benefitted skiers by decreasing skier traffic but has hurt the town because of decreased skier traffic...

 

[Greg]

I went to college in NH...when I told people I was from NY, they just assumed I was from NYC. Let me rephrase that...they just assumed that all of NY was like NYC. I brought a buddy from VT home for Thanksgiving one year and he was shocked to find we had deer and rabbits and other wildlife in our backyard. He was shocked we had a backyard...he assumed all of NY was buried under concrete.

Anyone can look at a map and understand the great state of New York is HUUUUGE in relation to its urban areas. Anyone that can't figure that out is an idiot.

New York is significantly bigger than Maine and also bigger than VT, NH, MA, CT and RI combined. You can't convince me that folks think it's all one big city...

 

[ctenidae]

Yep, we've gotten off topic and I'm partly responsible. Can anyone think of a controversial ski related topic we could all debate? Maybe it could be a separate thread.

These new-fangled shaped skis have ruined teh sport. They're the worst thing to happen to skiing since two poles.

 

[ctenidae]

Anyone can look at a map and understand the great state of New York is HUUUUGE in relation to its urban areas. Anyone that can't figure that out is an idiot.

New York is significantly bigger than Maine and also bigger than VT, NH, MA, CT and RI combined. You can't convince me that folks think it's all one big city...

Oh, but they do. Mostly because many people are covered by your second sentence on at least one topic each.

 

[JimG.]

Oh, but they do. Mostly because many people are covered by your second sentence on at least one topic each.

Thank you C10...I owe you a few beers.

 

[Greg]

Oh, but they do. Mostly because many people are covered by your second sentence on at least one topic each.

I guess I give the human race too much credit... :roll:

 

[dmc]

New York is significantly bigger than Maine and also bigger than VT, NH, MA, CT and RI combined. You can't convince me that folks think it's all one big city...

People only tend to only know what they see..

It's like NJ... People only really see the area around the airport.. And it's that urban blight that they make their decisions about the state on. What they don't see is miles of awesome shoreline, farms, pine barrens, nice hills for hiking, etc...

 

[ctenidae]

I guess I give the human race too much credit... :roll:

It's a common problem. I figure that people are only ever as smart as they need to be. For the most part, intelligence does not appear to be a daily requirement.

 

[ski_resort_observer]

Anyone can look at a map and understand the great state of New York is HUUUUGE in relation to its urban areas. Anyone that can't figure that out is an idiot.

New York is significantly bigger than Maine and also bigger than VT, NH, MA, CT and RI combined. You can't convince me that folks think it's all one big city...

Yes, they are idiots and yes it happens. I came up against the exact same thing when I moved to Laramie, Wy to attend grad school. When I mentioned I grew up in New York they definately thought the whole state was one big city. It got so bad that I finally got a nice postcard of Lake George(where I grew up), kept it in my wallet to educate these ignorant idiots. Many did not believe that the postcard was in New York and when I told them that the Adirondack Park in New York was twice the size of Yellowstone they simply scoffed at that idea.

I got used to it knowing they didn't mean it in a mean way.

 

[JimG.]

Yes, they are idiots and yes it happens. I came up against the exact same thing when I moved to Laramie, Wy to attend grad school. When I mentioned I grew up in New York they definately thought the whole state was one big city. It got so bad that I finally got a nice postcard of Lake George(where I grew up), kept it in my wallet to educate these ignorant idiots. Many did not believe that the postcard was in New York and when I told them that the Adirondack Park in New York was twice the size of Yellowstone they simply scoffed at that idea.

I got used to it knowing they didn't mean it in a mean way.

Hear here!

I'll buy you a few beers too when I visit SB this winter SRO.

 

[andyzee]

OK, here's my prediction. Within the next 4-5 years, tops, ASC will go bankrupt. Either Sugarbush or Hunter will buy up Killington and bring it to it's former glory.

 

[hammer]

People only tend to only know what they see..

It's like NJ... People only really see the area around the airport.. And it's that urban blight that they make their decisions about the state on. What they don't see is miles of awesome shoreline, farms, pine barrens, nice hills for hiking, etc...

I grew up on the Jersey Shore, and I could never understand the reputation that the state as a whole gets...people never realize how diverse the state really is.

 

[ski_resort_observer]

Many years ago some friends and I were coming back from spring break, due to a recent article in National Geographic on the Pine Barrens, we stopped and spent the day exploring. Amazing place.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

OK, here's my prediction. Within the next 4-5 years, tops, ASC will go bankrupt. Either Sugarbush or Hunter will buy up Killington and bring it to it's former glory.

No way on Hunter, they are a family owned shop busy with their own expansion.

It might be a good thing if ASC went bankrupt, but I doubt any single mountain resort would try to buy Kmart. It would probably be a new investor group.