Radical Prediction Thread

[dmc]

....that was fast. What do you have, a hard drive filled with pictures of Mousey Lesbians ? Scary....

I just googled Vermont lesbian..

 

[AdironRider]

Frankly I find it funny how people are critical of HPD's comments, when barely any of them have taken the initiative to actually check out Whiteface for what it is. Anyone whos been there before and has seen the the area known as the Tree Island Pod will attest that the expansion will add terrain that pretty much no other mountain in the east can compare to. It really is that good. Combine that with the largest vertical in the east, a truely western area in the slides, and a nice lack of prolonged runouts and flats and you have the perfect recipe for an eastern skiers cream dream. Also, within the last two years Whiteface has stepped it up majorly in the snowmaking department. Where else in the East could you ski 3400 vert 2 weeks before Christmas? Hell, on opening day I was riding 2400 off the gondola, few mountains in the East can match that even when 100% open. The days of Iceface are long gone. Cannon and Loon both provide worse conditions on a consistent basis, with Cannon just not putting the effort in, and Loon just being a crowded clusterfudgie. Want some more fuel for the fire? How bout how Whiteface is the only mountain that could host a World Cup skiing event. Downhill, GS, Slalom, you name it and Whiteface could host it. Whiteface also hosts a world cup snowboarding event every year, and (while Ive been critical in how long it takes for them to set it up - I have to admit that) their superpipe blows anyone elses away. The thing is HUGE and well maintained. They have 4 terrain parks in different ability levels spread out across the mountain. An entire beginners area with a newly renovated lodge in Kids Kampus. Nowhere else in the east can you find a similar area. Last but not least, Lake Placid is hands down the best place for Apres Ski activity.

Whew, hows that for backup HPD.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

This thread really does exemplify everything that is great and lame about this board.. :roll:

Well if no else is going to ask I guess I will. What's great and lame about this board and thread?

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Frankly I find it funny how people are critical of HPD's comments, when barely any of them have taken the initiative to actually check out Whiteface for what it is.

Whew, hows that for backup HPD.

That was pretty good Aride, but I expected people to be critical. I was just looking for some intelligent debate on a skiing topic. There are alot of folks here with alot of knowledge about skiing with something to say. I'm trying to tap into that.

When everyones agreeing all the time it gets boring.

 

[dmc]

Well if no else is going to ask I guess I will. What's great and lame about this board and thread?

A great thing would be you talking about your home mountain... Which is cool... I've been meaning to get up there... Wanted to go the the SnoDown last year...

the bad thing is some of the lameness written into repsonses...

 

[JimG.]

the bad thing is some of the lameness written into repsonses...

Like "because it's in New Yawk".

Sorry SRO, but it's lame.

 

[dmc]

Like "because it's in New Yawk".

Sorry SRO, but it's lame.

That and other stuff...

Mainly the whole "What I do is the best and everything else suks" thing is what I think is lame...

 

[ski_resort_observer]

I did put a "wink" at the end so it was totally tongue in cheek. I was born in NYC, my whole family is from there. If I thought it would have been taken so personally I would not have posted it. Sorry

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Like "because it's in New Yawk".

Sorry SRO, but it's lame.

JMO, I'm a New Yorker and I don't have a problem with it. I think sometimes people are too PC these days. DMC had his Vermont lesbo take (pretty funny) and no one from Vt. is calling it lame.

Again JMO, but I think the negative things written about New Yorkers and Hunter and how they're inter-twined has taken a toll on you.

 

[dmc]

DMC had his Vermont lesbo take (pretty funny) and no one from Vt. is calling it lame.

i only come out with the carved bear, syrup, and mousy, wire glasses, lesbians with Phish stickers on their car thing when someone assaults either NJ or NY...

It just makes me mad that we inject millions of dollars into those communities and get nothing but slashed tires and "dont jersey up VT" comments...

 

[JimG.]

JMO, I'm a New Yorker and I don't have a problem with it. I think sometimes people are too PC these days. DMC had his Vermont lesbo take (pretty funny) and no one from Vt. is calling it lame.

Again JMO, but I think the negative things written about New Yorkers and Hunter and how they're inter-twined has taken a toll on you.

dmc's reference was in direct response to the NY comment...deliberately adding to the lameness. One stereotype in response to another.

So you're saying you don't care when folks, many who probably have never even been to NY, take shots at your home state? Or shots at your beloved Whiteface because it's in NY? All because of stereotypes?

My feelings have less to do with NY or Hunter (never a part of this thread until your post just now) than with my intense dislike for any kind of stereotypes. And I'll admit I fall into the trap sometimes too...but I always back off and realize my error when I stereotype.

Judging anything without first hand experience over an appreciable period of time is wrong and usually hurtful. And I'm not going to sit around and listen to it without responding.

 

[Birdman829]

Want some more fuel for the fire? How bout how Whiteface is the only mountain that could host a World Cup skiing event. Downhill, GS, Slalom, you name it and Whiteface could host it.

That's not true. Sugarloaf is also approved for all disciplines. They had the US Alpine Nationals there last year. It was pretty sweet watching Bode, Daron, and Ted ski against local kids from CVA, Burke, Gould, etc.

 

[2knees]

That and other stuff...

Mainly the whole "What I do is the best and everything else suks" thing is what I think is lame...

Just to clarify.

In my case, I said whiteface wouldnt end up #1 for no other reason than location. Which, btw, i was corrected on and i took my beat down like a man. I have nothing against WF or any other ski area nor do i particularly feel any affiliation with one. Well, i dont like powder ridge, but that doesnt even count.

 

[JimG.]

I was born in NYC, my whole family is from there. If I thought it would have been taken so personally I would not have posted it. Sorry

Who knew?

And I believe that I have a history on this site of being a bit "Rambo" about those anti-NY comments, so my response is nothing out of character. I think most folks expect it and I assumed you wrote it to get such a response. Again, nothing new.

Except for HPD, I think most people don't take kindly to negative comments about their neck of the woods.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

So you're saying you don't care when folks, many who probably have never even been to NY, take shots at your home state? Or shots at your beloved Whiteface because it's in NY? All because of stereotypes?

Pretty much. As long as they do no harm to others I don't really care what anyone says, thinks or does.

 

[ski_resort_observer]

Guys..I thought putting the "wink" was a clear message that it was meant to be taken in jest.
I got the cabbie joke from hearing it from Dave Letterman on his show. Everyone in his audience roared with laughter as did I. Sorry you didn't see it that way.

Jim...I hear what your saying about stereotypes but they have been a big part of our culture's humor forever.

DMC...sorry it makes you mad that you inject millions of dollars into those communities and get nothing but slashed tires and "dont jersey up VT" comments. I don't think that's the case at all. I think most visitors, no matter where they come from, feel they get alot from coming to Vermont. That's why they keep coming back.

Jim wrote "And I believe that I have a history on this site of being a bit "Rambo" about those anti-NY comments, so my response is nothing out of character. I think most folks expect it and I assumed you wrote it to get such a response. Again, nothing new".

I actually wrote it hoping people would think it was funny, get a chuckle. Nothing more. My true goal is to make people laugh not upset them.

 

[Greg]

Frankly I find it funny how people are critical of HPD's comments, when barely any of them have taken the initiative to actually check out Whiteface for what it is. Anyone whos been there before and has seen the the area known as the Tree Island Pod will attest that the expansion will add terrain that pretty much no other mountain in the east can compare to.

I detect a little bit of hypocrisy here, unless of course you've been to every other ski area in the East...

 

[JimG.]

Pretty much. As long as they do no harm to others I don't really care what anyone says, thinks or does.

So, you don't think those types of comments hurt Whiteface's image?

You don't think Whiteface has lost out on some skier visits because of those NY stereotypes?

You began this thread by predicting that Whiteface will be the premier ski destination in the East...don't those stereotypes work against your prediction and desire?

Just asking and trying to get this back on topic.

 

[JimG.]

Jim...I hear what your saying about stereotypes but they have been a big part of our culture's humor forever.

Everyone has a different take on what's funny...I don't care for ethnic humor for the very reason that it's stereotypical. Never found that kind of humor funny.

Maybe it's because my parents are both European immigrants and my wife is Jamaican.

 

[dmc]

DMC...sorry it makes you mad that you inject millions of dollars into those communities and get nothing but slashed tires and "dont jersey up VT" comments. I don't think that's the case at all. I think most visitors, no matter where they come from, feel they get alot from coming to Vermont. That's why they keep coming back.

Whatever... I've seen it - I've lived it... It exists... I would never say EVERYONE in VT is like that -
but it does exist... the bumper stickers and the other acts of anomousity.

And it DOES make me mad.. But - it's not really an issue anymore - i really don't go to VT much...
Killington isnt open early and late anymore - MRG doesnt allow me to ride there - Sugarbush is always an option... Stowe/Jay are a little too far for me..