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BMM wrote a great article with some exciting news for mogul enthusiasts:
http://news.alpinezone.com/37398/
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http://news.alpinezone.com/37398/
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Sugarbush to Focus on Moguls at Mount Ellen
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But you don't ski Mt. Ellen.....
I'm sorry, but how is this any different from what they are already doing?????
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Maybe less grooming over there than previously? Maybe more "seeded" bumps when the natural snow is lacking? I just skimmed the article so I don't really know...
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:blink: This is not about me... :roll:
Who peed in your corn flakes this morning, Debbie Downer....?
Not being down at all....just reading this skeptically...
And I was being :wink: and :lol: since IIRC you've only skied LP...except for maybe one brief visit to ME.
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Even if it isn't any different, it's enough to make me want to check out Mt. Ellen.
I want to start to learn how to ski bumps this year. I am now likely to take an excursion to Mt. Ellen as part of this adventure.
Knowing that I'll be able to find 'training wheels' bumps is important to me. It can (and almost certainly has) make me choose SB over the many other VT areas that I want to visit. I'll probably only get to VT once or twice this winter, but at least one of those trips will be to Mt. Ellen.
Without this press release, I wouldn't have known what I was likely to find there. I've only been skiing a short time (this will be season # 3 for me, and season # 1 was really just a month at the end of the season, so it's really season # 2).
At the end of last year I was skiing bumped up terrain in the spring but I had no idea what I was doing. It'll be nice to go somewhere where I can work to get it right on lower angle runs before tackling the steeper stuff that is all over the NE with bumps on it.
Maybe in the end, maybe people like me are who this press release is aimed at. People who want to start skiing bumps, but don't want to start on a steep black or double black.
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I want to start to learn how to ski bumps this year. I am now likely to take an excursion to Mt. Ellen as part of this adventure.
Knowing that I'll be able to find 'training wheels' bumps is important to me. It can (and almost certainly has) make me choose SB over the many other VT areas that I want to visit. I'll probably only get to VT once or twice this winter, but at least one of those trips will be to Mt. Ellen.
Without this press release, I wouldn't have known what I was likely to find there. I've only been skiing a short time (this will be season # 3 for me, and season # 1 was really just a month at the end of the season, so it's really season # 2).
At the end of last year I was skiing bumped up terrain in the spring but I had no idea what I was doing. It'll be nice to go somewhere where I can work to get it right on lower angle runs before tackling the steeper stuff that is all over the NE with bumps on it.
Maybe in the end, maybe people like me are who this press release is aimed at. People who want to start skiing bumps, but don't want to start on a steep black or double black.
-w
Trailboss... it certainly is different. One big difference is in the availability of lower pitch mogul terrain. Go to almost any large resort in NE and you'll find single and double diamond bumps, and maybe one intermediate run of mediocre sorta-bumps.
The goal this year at ME is to offer bumps for everyone, so that you can learn proper technique before trying to survive FIS or Exterm.
The goal this year at ME is to offer bumps for everyone, so that you can learn proper technique before trying to survive FIS or Exterm.
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You've picked up on the primary goal here it seems. Another mountain gets it. You need to offer lower angle terrain that is not so intimidating, otherwise people will not feel comfortable learning to ski bumps. Not just survive bumps, but actually ski them well. This is why I keep tooting Sundown's horn. They've been offering low angle bump runs for several seasons, and I know of a few people that have fallen in love with mogul skiing as a result. There's a bigger picture here too, folks. The more people that learn to ski bumps, the more who will become really good at it and the demand for ungroomed terrain overall will increase.
Get off the groomers!
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Will there be seeded bumps??
As of right now, the only seeding plan would involve setting marking flags and skiing in lines. Cat bumps are never great on a large scale, from a financial standpoint, and a skiing standpoint.
I've got all of the resources necessary to set marking flags on low pitch terrain to set up a couple lines. It's just a waste of money, IMO, to take a cat out for 16 hours to "build" moguls on one trail. Kind of defeats the purpose of natural terrain.
But don't worry, there will be nice, even, flowing bumps on learning terrain.
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I would assume seeded bumps would be needed on beginner and intermediate terrain since people don't turn enough to make tight zipperlines..
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That's sweet. I hate steep bump runs. I rather rip turns on steeper runs and hammer out bumps on lower pitch trails.
OK. I'm glad you pointed out the intermediate bumps because I did not understand what was going to be changed. IMHO ME is great the way it is...because it has such a good variety of terrain. I really hope that, by and large, the same runs that are groomed stay groomed (Elbow, Rim Run, Which Way, North Star, etc). while other runs are allowed to bump up.
I don't want my beloved ME overrun by crowds, but I understand why we need to get more interest over there....
I don't want my beloved ME overrun by crowds, but I understand why we need to get more interest over there....
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I was happy to see the (seemingly) seeded bumps in the Whiffle Tree area at Sugarloaf. It seemed every time I wanted to venture into them, some crazy herd of under-10-year-old skiers came by (in groups of 8-10 at a time), so i didn't get to spend as much time as I'd hoped, but it was tempting to try bumps someplace where a) the pitch was moderate and b) I could duck out at any time if I felt like I needed to...
aaron
I've never once seen successful flagged lines.....but, they probably didn't have a nut like you willing to ski them over and over and over and over as needed. They always seem to just turn into a luge track of very far apart bumps
Well, there's a specific pattern with specific distances, and a specific way you have to ski them. That's where I come in :wink:
Slidebrook is such a bear to maintain and operate, and would cost the mountain way more to run midweek than you could possibly imagine. The shuttle bus is a functional, logical means of transportation. It's often well used mid-winter, so I don't see what the problem is. Sure beats having cars driving back and forth all day.
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true-dat..in the ASC days, Sugarbush would have the Slidebrook running 7 days a week..I always enjoyed starting my day with a few runs off of Sugar Bravo, Heavens Gate and Castlerock..then heading over to Sugarbush North and skiing some runs over there before returning make to South for a few final runs down Steins and Spring Fling..At north Bravo and Encore along with Cliffs, Hammerhead, Tumbler and lower FIS are my favorite runs..Inverness and Brambles are nice as well but that lift is so freaking slow..
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