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Sugarbush to Focus on Moguls at Mount Ellen

riverc0il

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Rock on bumping up low angle trails. Definitely over looked and needed.

Green circle bumps would be something to behold. Not sure if that is not reaching the point of diminishing returns even for training/teaching people how to ski bumps.
 

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This is awesome news!! I've often given Okemo credit for attention to low-angle bumps, but this sounds even more concentrated, and the Bush deserves credit if this comes to fruition. I would love to get some of my friends more into moguls (so they can find out what I am obsessed with!), this might just be the ticket! So many strong intermediates, who have the tools to start to learn real mogul skiing, are deterred by the black or double black trail signage.

I really look forward to this!!

And, fwiw, I, for one, would much rather see the Bush focus its resources on making Mt. Ellen a mogul mecca than on running the Slidebrook.

BMM, I assume the VP in the article is your Dad? That is awesome.
 

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true-dat..in the ASC days, Sugarbush would have the Slidebrook running 7 days a week..I always enjoyed starting my day with a few runs off of Sugar Bravo, Heavens Gate and Castlerock..then heading over to Sugarbush North and skiing some runs over there before returning make to South for a few final runs down Steins and Spring Fling..At north Bravo and Encore along with Cliffs, Hammerhead, Tumbler and lower FIS are my favorite runs..Inverness and Brambles are nice as well but that lift is so freaking slow..

Only for the first couple years after it was installed, while it was the 8th wonder of the world. After that, they moved to weekend only pretty much.


It would be nice to have it run 7 days, but I can see how a shuttle bar is far more cost effective.
 

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Green circle bumps would be something to behold. Not sure if that is not reaching the point of diminishing returns even for training/teaching people how to ski bumps.

Was at Camelback, PA, last year when they had a decent field set up on one of their LOW angle slopes. It was a ton of fun, esp. to teach folks on.
 

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So many strong intermediates, who have the tools to start to learn real mogul skiing, are deterred by the black or double black trail signage.
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That is exactly where Randi and I fit into the mix. Until we discovered ( or should I say dragged kicking and screaming by Greg) the low angle bumps at Sundown. We have always been a strong intermediate skiers very imtimidated by the bumps on steeper terrain. We always wanted to learn to ski the bumps but didn't have the chops to learn on a double diamond runs.

We started off skiing the low angle stuff at Sundown early last year, quickly progressed to slighly harder stuff and by the end of the year were hitting all the bump runs we could find (jus not that well ). By the end of the season Randi and I were doing back to back to back runs on Middle Earth at the Bush. Skiing tough ungrooomed terrain at Magic . MRG and even had the nearve to hit a few runs off the Pali lift at A-Basin in May. Just riding up the Pali life got me scared. I even entered a bump comp last season.

I am not saying we are even close to good bump skiers yet . But without those low angle bumps at Sundown we would have spent the entire season sking groomers. It has opened up so much more of the mountain to us. We now go out of our way to look for bumps & trees when we ski.
 

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That is exactly where Randi and I fit into the mix. Until we discovered ( or should I say dragged kicking and screaming by Greg) the low angle bumps at Sundown. We have always been a strong intermediate skiers very imtimidated by the bumps on steeper terrain. We always wanted to learn to ski the bumps but didn't have the chops to learn on a double diamond runs.

We started off skiing the low angle stuff at Sundown early last year, quickly progressed to slighly harder stuff and by the end of the year were hitting all the bump runs we could find (jus not that well ). By the end of the season Randi and I were doing back to back to back runs on Middle Earth at the Bush. Skiing tough ungrooomed terrain at Magic . MRG and even had the nearve to hit a few runs off the Pali lift at A-Basin in May. Just riding up the Pali life got me scared. I even entered a bump comp last season.

I am not saying we are even close to good bump skiers yet . But without those low angle bumps at Sundown we would have spent the entire season sking groomers. It has opened up so much more of the mountain to us. We now go out of our way to look for bumps & trees when we ski.

That's a million dollar post, right there...

:beer:
 

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One thought I had on this though. Is it possible that this might lead to more grooming at Lincoln Peak? Leave Twist, Moonshine, Mall, Spills, Paradise, all of Castlerock and Morning Star alone, and I'm okay with that.
 

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One thought I had on this though. Is it possible that this might lead to more grooming at Lincoln Peak? Leave Twist, Moonshine, Mall, Spills, Paradise, all of Castlerock and Morning Star alone, and I'm okay with that.

I'd be very surprised if they groomed any of the runs you just named. Of those my personal guess (and that's what it is) is that Moonshine and Twist would be the first to see a groomer. But I think South has enough of all levels that gets groomed, they don't need to groom more.
 

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I'd be very surprised if they groomed any of the runs you just named. Of those my personal guess (and that's what it is) is that Moonshine and Twist would be the first to see a groomer. But I think South has enough of all levels that gets groomed, they don't need to groom more.

Agreed. Most of those really can't accommodate a groomer anyway. Moonshine seems to get at least a groomer pass every now and then which is fine by me, being a blue.
 

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Agreed. Most of those really can't accommodate a groomer anyway. Moonshine seems to get at least a groomer pass every now and then which is fine by me, being a blue.

You'd be surprised what you can do with a winch cat and a tree! But I wouldn't suspect those trails will be touched any more than they have been in the past. Moonshine and Twist see an occasional cat, as with Morning Star. Castlerock Run has been groomed a time or two during nasty icy periods.
 

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One thought I had on this though. Is it possible that this might lead to more grooming at Lincoln Peak? Leave Twist, Moonshine, Mall, Spills, Paradise, all of Castlerock and Morning Star alone, and I'm okay with that.

Keep yer grubby groomer hands of Domino too, Kthx
 

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Oh yeah. Forgot about that one. Great way to get to the Rock from Bravo.

Missed this yesterday, but yeah... Domino is the way to go if you're headed to C-Rock or to HG. You can take the little cut over on HG Traverse from Domino straight to the base of HG. At least you avoid Deathspout!
 
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