Need a pair of skis for trees and moguls

[elks]

I've been skiing a pair of Atomic Metron M11 in 162 (I'm 5'10" and 140lbs.) for the past 3 seasons and really love these skis. However I find them sluggish in moguls and a lot of work in trees. I'd like to find a second pair of skis that is not a dedicated powder ski but has a strong bias towards skiing trees and bumps.

While at Jay Peak this week, I tried a pair of Line Prophet 90 and a pair of Rossignol SC 80. The Rossignol were very mediocre and skied more like the Metron just not as well. The Line Prophet 90 were much more in line with what I'm looking for. They were very responsive in the trees and held a pretty good edge as well on groomers. Definitely fun skis.

What else should I be trying?

 

[elks]

anyone? thanks!

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

K2 Public Ememy..probably around 170 in length for your height and weight..Wide enough and stiff enough(not Atomic stiff) for the crud and powder and narrow enough for bumps and groomers..The Metron you have been skiing on is quite a bit of ski for someone your height..I've skied that same ski and thought it skied like my 176 length Elans..The Metron is a tiring ski due to the turn radius..you'll be pleasently surprised on the K2 Public Enemy..you can find an 06-07 model on EBay for $150..but don't skimp on the bindings. If you like the Public Enemy you'll also like the Rossi Scratch..a little softer and a little wider than the Public enemy but a very capable all mountain ski..they were pretty much my everyday ski last season..

 

[mondeo]

I've heard good things about Trouble Makers.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Nordica Afterburners

 

[tjf67]

I've been skiing a pair of Atomic Metron M11 in 162 (I'm 5'10" and 140lbs.) for the past 3 seasons and really love these skis. However I find them sluggish in moguls and a lot of work in trees. I'd like to find a second pair of skis that is not a dedicated powder ski but has a strong bias towards skiing trees and bumps.

While at Jay Peak this week, I tried a pair of Line Prophet 90 and a pair of Rossignol SC 80. The Rossignol were very mediocre and skied more like the Metron just not as well. The Line Prophet 90 were much more in line with what I'm looking for. They were very responsive in the trees and held a pretty good edge as well on groomers. Definitely fun skis.

What else should I be trying?

Those metron you own have a pretty big side cut. In the trees you want a short turning radius, which you have. Don't want to discourage you from getting new skiis but I think the ones you have are pretty good. When is the last time you got them tuned?

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Nordica Afterburners

Aren't you sponsored by Nordica?

 

[gmcunni]

Nordica Afterburners

i want those!

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Aren't you sponsored by Nordica?

I'm the rep at WF for Nordica. If you’re implying I’m prejudice toward Nordica you are 100% correct. That said, the Nordica line is what I know and I think the Afterburners would work very well for Kelly for what he wants. I’m sure there are other skis from other companies that would also work well for him; but like I said Nordica is what I know.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

i want those!

You won't be sorry if you get them. They are an extremely versatile all mountain tool that work well in a variety of conditions.

 

[ALLSKIING]

You won't be sorry if you get them. They are an extremely versatile all mountain tool that work well in a variety of conditions.

What do you think about the Hot Rod Top Fuel?

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

What do you think about the Hot Rod Top Fuel?

That's my ski for non soft days. Fast, tenacious edge hold, damp, but not too damp, good in bumps and versatile enough for trees. When the snow gets deeper and/or softer I switch to my Hellcats.

If I could only have one pair of skis to ski everyday in the Northeast it would be the Top Fuels.

 

[gmcunni]

That's my ski for non soft days. Fast, tenacious edge hold, damp, but not too damp, good in bumps and versatile enough for trees. When the snow gets deeper and/or softer I switch to my Hellcats.

If I could only have one pair of skis to ski everyday in the Northeast it would be the Top Fuels.

generally speaking, better in bumps, afterburner or top fuel?

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

generally speaking, better in bumps, afterburner or top fuel?

The AB is softer and easier to turn at slow to moderate speeds because it has no metal, but they are 5 cm wider then the TF's. I guess the AB's, but I don't think a good bump skier would have trouble with either.

For powder definately the ABs.

 

[mondeo]

The AB is softer and easier to turn at slow to moderate speeds because it has no metal, but they are 5 cm wider then the TF's. I guess the AB's, but I don't think a good bump skier would have trouble with either.

For powder definately the ABs.

Metal=bad for bump skiing, in general. Weight and stiffness are both things you don't want.

And I hope you mean 5 mm wider than the top fuels?!:razz::wink:

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Metal=bad for bump skiing, in general. Weight and stiffness are both things you don't want.

And I hope you mean 5 mm wider than the top fuels?!

Of course I met mm, thanks for pointing out my mistake though. Always good to know the spell check police are on duty in the forum.

 

[gmcunni]

The AB is softer and easier to turn at slow to moderate speeds because it has no metal, but they are 5 cm wider then the TF's. I guess the AB's, but I don't think a good bump skier would have trouble with either.

For powder definately the ABs.

can you say if the 09/10 skis will be different than current models?

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

can you say if the 09/10 skis will be different than current models?

As far as I know the only that changes in the Hot Rod line is the graphics. I don't have a catalog for next season yet. If I hear different I'll let you know.

 

[madskier6]

As far as I know the only that changes in the Hot Rod line is the graphics. I don't have a catalog for next season yet. If I hear different I'll let you know.

HPD: Do you know whether Nordica made any structural (non-graphics) changes to the Afterburner between 06-07 and 08-09? The reason I ask is I demoed the 08-09 model last March & really liked them. I've now bought a pair of 06-07 Afterburners at a real cheap price, which are being shipped to me. I have yet to ski on those.

Not a big deal either way because I know I'll like the skis & the price I paid for them is a steal. But I'm just curious if there have been any changes at all over the years.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

HPD: Do you know whether Nordica made any structural (non-graphics) changes to the Afterburner between 06-07 and 08-09? The reason I ask is I demoed the 08-09 model last March & really liked them. I've now bought a pair of 06-07 Afterburners at a real cheap price, which are being shipped to me. I have yet to ski on those.

Not a big deal either way because I know I'll like the skis & the price I paid for them is a steal. But I'm just curious if there have been any changes at all over the years.

Same ski. The only difference besides the graphics is that Nordica no longer uses Marker bindings they now use their own design. Also all Hot Rods got the XBI binding system this year. In 06/07 they where using the XBS system.

All that said, I don't think you'll notice any difference. They are a truly great ski.