For those that crack on "seeded bumps"

[2knees]

this is getting stupid.

where did all this "seeded bumps only" come from? i dont know one person who taught themselves how to ski bumps on strictly catted runs.

no matter what, someone will always come out and say x is better then y because i can do x but not y. or vice versa.....

big bumps, little bumps, steep trails flat trails, whatever. just get out there and rail those mofo's....

 

[Greg]

this is getting stupid.

where did all this "seeded bumps only" come from?

Agreed. And I keep asking myself that same question. This thread was started in specific response to the seeded bumps only misconception. The most annoying part is often times that little jab is from non-bump skiers.

 

[2knees]

Agreed. And I keep asking myself that same question. This thread was started in specific response to the seeded bumps only misconception. The most annoying part is often times that little jab is from non-bump skiers.

right about that.
people just latch onto shit and then apply to every thread and every conversation.

 

[Greg]

right about that.
people just latch onto shit and then apply to every thread and every conversation.

You know what dude. I don't mind being the outcast or misfit. Let the haters think what they want.

 

[campgottagopee]

this is getting stupid.

where did all this "seeded bumps only" come from? i dont know one person who taught themselves how to ski bumps on strictly catted .

Came from Greg complaining that the bumps at K weren't all that great yesterday

 

[Greg]

Came from Greg complaining that the bumps at K weren't all that great yesterday

No it didn't.

 

[Grassi21]

Came from Greg complaining that the bumps at K weren't all that great yesterday

No it didn't.

Greg is right. This line of insult/jab has been going on for quite some time. People def. zero in what pushes Greg's buttons and run it into the ground.

 

[campgottagopee]

Greg is right. This line of insult/jab has been going on for quite some time. People def. zero in what pushes Greg's buttons and run it into the ground.

I just give that crap zero attention.

 

[snoseek]

I feel like the style of bump skiing changed maybe. I notice a lot of skiers incorperating fast wider turns in a bump field-especially in fresher snow when it counts. Not that they can't ski really good....just a different way of skiing them.

 

[riverc0il]

Seriously, the abundance of sweeping push pile GS bumps at Killington today was discouraging.

I think the poor bump lines are more a result of almost no snow since late February. The bump lines at Lincoln peak SUCKED when I was there two weekends ago. Mall was okay and Spillsville were acceptable. Steins was amongst the worst bump runs I had skied in a while with those wide pushed around piles. Ripcord, little better. Etc. Just big pushed around piles rather than nice lines. I really think the lack of snow combined with rain had more to do with those bad lines than "GS" bumps.

And I would ask... who actually cracks on seeded bumps? I don't recall ever seeing a post that suggested seeded bumps are not good. Any one that enjoys bumps should be all for seeded bumps. Any increase in non-groomed terrain is a good thing and the more people that can ski non-groomed terrain the better... and what better introduction than seeded bumps?

"GS" turns are incompatible with how bumps are formed, you can not make a GS turn and form bumps (good lines or bad). These bad lines are cause by people slamming their skis sideways into a skid and slamming into the bump without absorbing the impact. Relying on edge turn for speed control instead of absorbing the bump for speed control. Groomer technique is not what is ruining bump lines. A lack of training in bumps? Surely. So spread the seeded runs around.

 

[JimG.]

Any one that enjoys bumps should be all for seeded bumps. Any increase in non-groomed terrain is a good thing and the more people that can ski non-groomed terrain the better... and what better introduction than seeded bumps?

"GS" turns are incompatible with how bumps are formed, you can not make a GS turn and form bumps (good lines or bad). These bad lines are cause by people slamming their skis sideways into a skid and slamming into the bump without absorbing the impact. Relying on edge turn for speed control instead of absorbing the bump for speed control. Groomer technique is not what is ruining bump lines. A lack of training in bumps? Surely. So spread the seeded runs around.

Well said.

You need bumps, seeded or natural, to be good at skiing them.

And they need to be of varying pitch.

 

[kcyanks1]

I think the poor bump lines are more a result of almost no snow since late February. The bump lines at Lincoln peak SUCKED when I was there two weekends ago. Mall was okay and Spillsville were acceptable. Steins was amongst the worst bump runs I had skied in a while with those wide pushed around piles. Ripcord, little better. Etc. Just big pushed around piles rather than nice lines. I really think the lack of snow combined with rain had more to do with those bad lines than "GS" bumps.

Steins always seems to have crappy lines. Ripcord never is my favorite run either. Spillsville and Mall generally are the best, I think. Castlerock provides lots of fun and moguls, but not necessarily clean lines, IMO.

 

[JimG.]

Generally speaking, I think alot of folks have just gotten too fussy about their bumps.

I'm just glad I can still ski somewhere this weekend.

I don't expect trails to have "clean" bump lines this time of year.

 

[jack97]

Generally speaking, I think alot of folks have just gotten too fussy about their bumps.

Dunno about that, big difference in a bump trail versus a gs bump trail. The later meaning the bumps are spread out so wide that its basically skiing around the bumps, like skiing gates but just replace the gates with mounds.

Wachusetts gets that alot after a big storm, bumps piled up but you can drive a snowmobile between the bumps b/c its so wide and flat.

 

[kcyanks1]

Generally speaking, I think alot of folks have just gotten too fussy about their bumps.

I'm just glad I can still ski somewhere this weekend.

I don't expect trails to have "clean" bump lines this time of year.

I'm not saying I don't enjoy "[un]clean" lines. In fact, I said the opposite with respect to Castlerock. When other options are open, though, I do generally avoid Steins, not only because I think the bumps are often a mess, but also because I don't think the snow is generally as good as its natural neighbor (the Mall) or the trails elsewhere on the mountain, and further, it's one of those wide supertrails that I don't particularly care for. The same things apply to Ripcord -- not as good snow, superwide slash in the mountain.

 

[JimG.]

Dunno about that, big difference in a bump trail versus a gs bump trail. The later meaning the bumps are spread out so wide that its basically skiing around the bumps, like skiing gates but just replace the gates with mounds.

Wachusetts gets that alot after a big storm, bumps piled up but you can drive a snowmobile between the bumps b/c its so wide and flat.

I don't even consider "GS bumps" to be bumps so I threw that off the table for my response.

"GS bumps" really are just a mess resulting from overgrooming in the spring..

 

[JimG.]

I'm not saying I don't enjoy "[un]clean" lines. In fact, I said the opposite with respect to Castlerock. When other options are open, though, I do generally avoid Steins, not only because I think the bumps are often a mess, but also because I don't think the snow is generally as good as its natural neighbor (the Mall) or the trails elsewhere on the mountain, and further, it's one of those wide supertrails that I don't particularly care for. The same things apply to Ripcord -- not as good snow, superwide slash in the mountain.

I wasn't singling you out in my response.

I think your reply was on the mark in fact.

 

[Greg]

Jim - nevermind all this. Are you hitting up Sugarbush with us on Sunday?

 

[JimG.]

Jim - nevermind all this. Are you hitting up Sugarbush with us on Sunday?

Can't...my season ended this past weekend.

My 2 oldest boys have soccer games Sat/Sun (4 games total) every weekend from now on.

Plus state cup games which began last weekend.

I'll have to take a raincheck until November.

 

[dmc]

I prefer seedless bumps... Like seedless watermellon... Or seedless grapes..