Demographics of Southern Vermont

[billski]

I've always thought of the Berkshires and Southern Vermont as the playground for metro NY. In looking for some new hiking areas to explore, I was surprised at the number of gay and nudist camps/areas/organizations there are in SoVT. I wasn't looking for them at all, just looking for local information on out of the way hills, mountains, lakes, trails that might be worth an explore. Interesting that when I've done this type of searching in NoVT, NH and ME that I really don't see places like this. I'm not dissin' anyone here; just observing. Is this the metro NYC effect?

 

[WakeboardMom]

I've always thought of the Berkshires and Southern Vermont as the playground for metro NY. In looking for some new hiking areas to explore, I was surprised at the number of gay and nudist camps/areas/organizations there are in SoVT. I wasn't looking for them at all, just looking for local information on out of the way hills, mountains, lakes, trails that might be worth an explore. Interesting that when I've done this type of searching in NoVT, NH and ME that I really don't see places like this. I'm not dissin' anyone here; just observing. Is this the metro NYC effect?

Why would you ask that? Are NY'ers more inclined to wanna get nekkid than NE'ers?

 

[billski]

Why would you ask that? Are NY'ers more inclined to wanna get nekkid than NE'ers?

I don't know. I'm trying to understand why it appears clustered in this area.

 

[Black Phantom]

I don't know. I'm trying to understand why it appears clustered in this area.

http://www.nakedinvermont.com/

 

[dmc]

I don't know. I'm trying to understand why it appears clustered in this area.

It may be simply that its tolerated there...

 

[deadheadskier]

I don't know. I'm trying to understand why it appears clustered in this area.

so, your immediate thought is to make a connection via stereotype? On nudity of all things? :blink:


You recently remarked on the 'aggressive NY' clientele at Mt. Snow in suggesting it's something a new skier to New England should look for when evaluating where they go.

I practically grew up in Southern VT. Family had a home there for 15 years from age 10 on. I went to High School there. I went to college and lived in Northern VT for 10 years. I think I'm well qualified to say that the differences you try to paint via stereotype are pretty assinine bill. You might see more Canadien license plates up North than in the South. The same is true in Southern VT in that you might see more NJ/NY plates. That said, the differences aren't that big. If anything, Northen VT is a bit more culturally suburban due to transplants from all over into the Burlington metro area.

you really need to learn to view people as who they are, not where they're from.

 

[Geoff]

so, your immediate thought is to make a connection via stereotype? On nudity of all things? :blink:


You recently remarked on the 'aggressive NY' clientele at Mt. Snow in suggesting it's something a new skier to New England should look for when evaluating where they go.

I practically grew up in Southern VT. Family had a home there for 15 years from age 10 on. I went to High School there. I went to college and lived in Northern VT for 10 years. I think I'm well qualified to say that the differences you try to paint via stereotype are pretty assinine bill. You might see more Canadien license plates up North than in the South. The same is true in Southern VT in that you might see more NJ/NY plates. That said, the differences aren't that big. If anything, Northen VT is a bit more culturally suburban due to transplants from all over into the Burlington metro area.

you really need to learn to view people as who they are, not where they're from.

I think you're way off base here.

For something like a nudist colony, you need a big enough drive-to population base to populate it. Metro-NYC is the obvious huge population base. Southern Vermont is within comfortable driving distance for a weekend. From NYC, you're not going to drive to New Hampshire or Maine. It's also very economically depressed so once you get away from the ski areas, chunks of land are relatively inexpensive.

 

[deadheadskier]

By that logic, the Poconos and Catskills should be loaded with nudist camps as well

 

[Black Phantom]

By that logic, the Poconos and Catskills should be loaded with nudist camps as well

Have you ever been to Cedar Water's? I think the name has changed over the years. Great place to take the family.

 

[Geoff]

By that logic, the Poconos and Catskills should be loaded with nudist camps as well

A quick Google confirms that there are.

For example:
www.sunnyrest.com/

 

[Glenn]

I'm a flatlander with a weekend house, so I'm sure I'll be raked over the coals if I make assumptions.

SoVT is an interesting mix of people. There are lots of different backgrounds and lifestyles. There are also lots of different license plates.

 

[WakeboardMom]

I think you're way off base here.

For something like a nudist colony, you need a big enough drive-to population base to populate it. Metro-NYC is the obvious huge population base. Southern Vermont is within comfortable driving distance for a weekend. From NYC, you're not going to drive to New Hampshire or Maine. It's also very economically depressed so once you get away from the ski areas, chunks of land are relatively inexpensive.

But still...the premise is that NY'ers are more inclined to visit a nudist colony than NE'ers? Maybe it's time for a Google search for "Nudist colonies New England?"

 

[Puck it]

You realize that most people that go to nudist colonies, are people you really don't want to see naked anyways!!!!!!!!!:idea:

 

[drjeff]

You realize that most people that go to nudist colonies, are people you really don't want to see naked anyways!!!!!!!!!:idea:

ding ding ding we have a winner!

 

[JerseyJoey]

But still...the premise is that NY'ers are more inclined to visit a nudist colony than NE'ers? Maybe it's time for a Google search for "Nudist colonies New England?"

I think you'd look very pretty naked. I base this statement on how good you look with your clothes on. It can only get better from there, right? Maybe you could post a pic or 3 to confirm?

 

[dmc]

I think you'd look very pretty naked. I base this statement on how good you look with your clothes on. It can only get better from there, right? Maybe you could post a pic or 3 to confirm?

Just sent some your way - hope she doesnt mind...

 

[Puck it]

Just sent some your way - hope she doesnt mind...

You do not share very well!!!!!!:sad:

 

[Black Phantom]

The beauty of small town Vermont.

Vermont town bans public nudity after brash displays
Zach Howard
BRATTLEBORO
Wed Jul 18, 2007 11:37am EDT

BRATTLEBORO Vermont (Reuters) - A Vermont town that is gaining national attention for brash displays of nudity -- from teens in the buff to naked elderly people -- awoke on Wednesday to an emergency ban on nakedness in most public places.

Officials in Brattleboro voted 3 to 2 on Tuesday night for a temporary 30-day ordinance prohibiting people from going about in the nude.

Public nudity made headlines last summer when the weather grew hot and a couple of dozen teens took to holding hula hoop contests, riding bikes and parading past stores wearing only their birthday suits. The disrobing has resumed this summer.

But many locals say it has gone too far. Some cite a case in which a senior citizen from Arizona strolled through the center of town wearing only a waist pack and sandals.

"We've received quite a number of complaints on this," Assistant Town Manager Barbara Sondag said. "This was brought up last summer ... and kind of died down. Then a couple of incidents again this summer have got the issue to resurface."

Vermont has a live-and-let-live tradition, allowing skinny-dipping and nude sunbathing. Brattleboro, the first permanent English settlement in the state in 1724, is home to a community of writers, artists and musicians as well as transplanted entrepreneurs from Boston and New York.

Although skinny-dipping and nude sunbathing will stay legal in the state, doing the "full monty" in the middle of this town has now become taboo. A violation can cost $100.

The topic is hotly debated at Harold & Son's Barbershop, where Heather Birmingham, 30, cuts and colors hair.

"(Nudity) does rub some people the wrong way," she said.

"Some people say 'to each his own'. But some of the older people say 'be respectful'."

She disagrees with the ban. "This whole town is about peace and about being your own person. So if it is, then why isn't nudity accepted?"

Caleb Morris, 15, said he wasn't surprised by the town's tough response because outsiders could find the nudity offensive, but he added that Vermont has always been unique.

"It's a lot more free-spirited than some other states. We don't have a lot of laws banning things here."

The ban covers nudity in the main part of town and near schools and churches and is part of a broader anti-nudity proposal that is likely to be decided next month. Breast feeding in public will still be allowed.

 

[dmc]

You do not share very well!!!!!!:sad:

I don't like you... Why would I share with you...

 

[dmc]

By that logic, the Poconos and Catskills should be loaded with nudist camps as well

I've never heard of nudist camps in the Skillz..... There's some fat camps... And a ton of Hasidic bungalow camps..