Sundown Gunny Plans

[severine]

I can't say I've ever skied the top groomed side when there's bumps, but the times I've ventured off onto the groomed section down low, it's actually been pretty good. Corn snow for the most part, and even the "ice" peeled away. All depends on the day admittedly, and again, probably pretty good for the first few hours in the morning, but I wouldn't know since I never make an effort to get there early morning in the spring.

The bottom half of the groomed half is good; the top half is a nightmare on warm days. It gets scraped right off.

But again, all ski areas deal with this in the spring. It's part of the package.

 

[Greg]

You should've stopped reading there. I'm just trying to bring some balance to this discussion.

No....you're injecting a know-it-all attitude based on a few years experience at a small/medium New England ski area, like you do in many of these threads.

The test for this how many season passes would not be purchased the following season if a) all racing programs were stopped b) all terrain parks were announced as cancelled.

You forgot c) mowed down all the bumps... :roll:

This is a good idea though. I'll suggest it to Bob and see if he'll do all three next year just to be sure the current formula is right.
:dunce:

That's not guarantee revenue - through the window revenue is simply not there for a southern New England ski area in a bad winter (for instance, I believe it was January 2000 in which Massachusetts and Connecticut ski areas saw rain over 20 out of 31 days).

That's not guaranteed income, either. See above.

Thanks Captain Obvious. Are you suggesting that day ticket sales are trivial in terms of overall revenue?

Indeed...and some of these programs are tied to after school racing programs..

Not at Sundown as far as I know.

 

[Grassi21]

So when is Kurt seeding Gunny? ;-)

 

[Greg]

So when is Kurt seeding Gunny? ;-)

Once we convince Bob to eliminate all racing from the mountain. That's what we're trying to do after all, right? :lol:

 

[Grassi21]

Once we convince Bob to eliminate all racing from the mountain. That's what we're trying to do after all, right? :lol:

:lol:

 

[2knees]

Thanks Captain Obvious. Are you suggesting that day ticket sales are trivial in terms of overall revenue?

day ticket sales are just pure luck. i'm sure they dont actually count on selling any over the course of a season. not built into their yearly financial plan. all operations are subsidized by income generated from racing.

 

[threecy]

No....you're injecting a know-it-all attitude based on a few years experience at a small/medium New England ski area, like you do in many of these threads.

Didn't know you had a copy of my resume. Yep, only a few years at a single, small/medium New England ski area.

I'll remind you of my original post in this thread, prior to it becoming anti-racer:

Having no ability or interest in bumps, I'd be let down in losing Gunbarrel late season if I were a passholder. In my opinion, that's one of the nicest trails in Southern New England. I'm no longer in the Sundown area, though, so that's purely anecdotal.

This is a good idea though. I'll suggest it to Bob and see if he'll do all three next year just to be sure the current formula is right.

I don't know how to respond to that.

Thanks Captain Obvious. Are you suggesting that day ticket sales are trivial in terms of overall revenue?

Thank you for the name calling. If you read my posts, you'll note I neither stated nor implied that day ticket sales are trivial in terms of overall revenue. You'll note that my comments about racing are in regard to guaranteed revenue. Day ticket sales are not guaranteed revenue.

 

[Greg]

All right, let's calm down. I don't know how this thread got perceived as all of us being anti-racer. I think it's the bumpers are more willing to compromise than anybody. A few good lines is all we need. We're easy to please.

The original argument was whether a half-bumped Gunbarrel in March will result in a financial loss for the mountain, and I still contend it doesn't. In fact, I believe the opposite is true, especially since a half-bumped Gunbarrel in March does not impact the racing schedule at all.

 

[powhunter]

when is gunny getting bumped up??????

 

[Greg]

when is gunny getting bumped up??????

Huh?

 

[powhunter]

All right, let's calm down. I don't know how this thread got perceived as all of us being anti-racer. I think it's the bumpers are more willing to compromise than anybody. A few good lines is all we need. We're easy to please.

The original argument was whether a half-bumped Gunbarrel in March will result in a financial loss for the mountain, and I still contend it doesn't. In fact, I believe the opposite is true, especially since a half-bumped Gunbarrel in March does not impact the racing schedule at all.

Dont most racers break out their bikes with the curly handlebars come march??

steveo

 

[Black Phantom]

Brownsville Brooklyn will be attending the Spring mogul bash. :beer::flag::angry:

 

[2knees]

Brownsville Brooklyn will be attending the Spring mogul bash. :beer::flag::angry:

Nice! I owe him a beer and a hot dog.

 

[campgottagopee]

All right, let's calm down. I don't know how this thread got perceived as all of us being anti-racer. I think it's the bumpers are more willing to compromise than anybody. A few good lines is all we need. We're easy to please.

The original argument was whether a half-bumped Gunbarrel in March will result in a financial loss for the mountain, and I still contend it doesn't. In fact, I believe the opposite is true, especially since a half-bumped Gunbarrel in March does not impact the racing schedule at all.

So typical for a bumper to back down to a racer :razz:

 

[deadheadskier]

Dont most racers break out their bikes with the curly handlebars come march??

steveo

hey now, MTBers wear the spandex too.

 

[gmcunni]

The original argument was whether a half-bumped Gunbarrel in March will result in a financial loss for the mountain, and I still contend it doesn't. In fact, I believe the opposite is true, especially since a half-bumped Gunbarrel in March does not impact the racing schedule at all.

if gunny wasn't bumped in March, would you still ski @ sundown?

 

[Black Phantom]

Originally Posted by Black Phantom
Brownsville Brooklyn will be attending the Spring mogul bash.

Nice! I owe him a beer and a hot dog.

I hear that he is looking forward to it.

 

[gmcunni]

hey now, MTBers wear the spandex too.

i'm wearing spandex right now.. oh, wait. never mind.

 

[Black Phantom]

i'm wearing spandex right now.. oh, wait. never mind.

 

[Greg]

if gunny wasn't bumped in March, would you still ski @ sundown?

Probably. I did prior to Gunbarrel being bumped. I might even ski there still if there were no bumps at all, but probably just with the kids, and we'd certainly mix it up with Mohawk more. I would go to Catamount or Hunter for bumps if Sundown abandoned the mogul approach and I can tell you for certain, I'd be skiing a lot less.