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Crashed groomer/new Jay Peak run
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fbrissette
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I did not notice that the cut is on their online trail map. Very strange. It is not on the 2011-2012 paper map (don't have the 2012-2013 paper map with me). Either the marketing guys were very quick on their feet and modified the map almost in real time or the cut was planned and it is a strange coincidence.
Just looked at Jay Peak concept master plan (version 5, just a few weeks old AFAIK) and the cut is not there, so I have to assume that they are really quick at modifying the website. This is rather surprising since I doubt this was done in house. May be Steve Wright will chime in.
The entrance is steep but after a couple of turns, it will be intermediate pitch. It more or less follow the grade and avoids the flat area around the entrance of the Beaver.
Now that they've added a new intermediate run, I don't think they need that new run past Timbuktu anymore...
from_the_NEK
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I like the idea as "Groomer" as a name and never grooming it. The trail is too short to support a name that is any longer. A longer name would not pass Riverc0il's critera for naming a trail (If the trail name cannot fit into the trail on the trailmap, the trail is probably too short to be on the trailmap in the firstplace... or something like that
).I don't recall ever seeing that on the trailmap but it would only take about 5 minutes to make that simple modification to the base image and upload it to the website. Pretty funny that they got it up there that fast. Here is a screen capture from the Jay online map with the red arrow pointing to the new trail.
jimmywilson69
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Anyone know how said groomer got into that position?
Will JP have to "eliminate" some other "forest" disturbance because of this, or revegetate the area?
Will JP have to "eliminate" some other "forest" disturbance because of this, or revegetate the area?
BenedictGomez
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Now you can see why I was confused. I didnt remember that cut being there, it seemed to be about where you described, and <24 hours it was on the map.
How do you do that, just hit print screen and save it as a picture file or something?
fbrissette
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Don't know what from_the_NEK is using but I use the following:
http://download.cnet.com/MWSnap/3000-2072_4-10524229.html
It is a very light free app. Start it, select the 'snap any area' tool in the toolbar and save as an image file.
On Windows 7 I just use the built in capture tool.
from_the_NEK
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I do a print screen, paste into PaintShop Pro, crop what I want, save it to JPEG, and post it to the webz.
MadMadWorld
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fbrissette
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BenedictGomez
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I'll have to try to find that later, I didnt either. I would have gone the print screen route were I extremely motivated.
riverc0il
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It was already on the map... this map was posted in November:
http://skimap.org/SkiAreas/view/202
http://skimap.org/SkiAreas/view/202
BenedictGomez
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That doesn't seem possible as it would mean it's a trail they meant to cut. Maybe that website auto-pulls from whatever is currently on Jay's page, but the November date remains from when the map was first pulled?
riverc0il
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The map isn't from Jay's site. Jay uses a dynamic map on their web site. That map is sourced from the ski map web site. Here is the direct URL:
http://skimap.org/data/202/916/1353202058.jpg
The web site has a post date of November. I have no reason to doubt the Ski Map web site in its authenticity of dating.
There are two possible explanations: the cut was already made and even Jay regulars had not yet noticed it or the cut was planned to be made and this is a total coincidence. What say the people that actually saw the cut? Can you report if the cut looked fresh or not? Or is all of this second hand? Who was actually there and can comment?
http://skimap.org/data/202/916/1353202058.jpg
The web site has a post date of November. I have no reason to doubt the Ski Map web site in its authenticity of dating.
There are two possible explanations: the cut was already made and even Jay regulars had not yet noticed it or the cut was planned to be made and this is a total coincidence. What say the people that actually saw the cut? Can you report if the cut looked fresh or not? Or is all of this second hand? Who was actually there and can comment?
fbrissette
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Let me make this very clear. The cut was made this Saturday. the pic I posted was taken Saturday morning around 10h30AM. We were the first one to get there after they fropped the ropes. The area was cleared because of the winching attempts with another groomer. The pic is taken directly in the direction of the cut. If I had taken another picture on Sunday (I did not because I did not have my phone on Sunday), you would see Ullr's 300 to 400 feet behind the groomer, where you see a mature forest.
This is absolutely crazy. Has to be the strangest coincidence ever on a ski hill or was BenedictGomez right when he mentioned conspiracy ?
riverc0il
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Thanks, fbrissette. Didn't mean to make my comment like I was calling you out... I don't think you specifically said you were there and it was first hand, or if you did then I missed it.
I think you are right... either very freaky coincidence or conspiracy. Wouldn't be the first time Jay cut a trail on the sly. HA!
I think you are right... either very freaky coincidence or conspiracy. Wouldn't be the first time Jay cut a trail on the sly. HA!
MadMadWorld
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Seems kind of silly of them to risk huge fines and penalties for a meaningless trail bump.
Just look for "snipping tool" I think is what it is called.
BenedictGomez
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I still think the most likely option is that Jay very quickly, in < 24 hours updated the trail map.
1) Why on earth would Jay have a cut on its' trail map that literally didn't exist, and never existed on its' maps in years prior?
2) Am I really supposed to believe that an "accident" just happened to happen at the precise location of said "magical cut", which probably represents 0.0001% of their skiable terrain?
1) Why on earth would Jay have a cut on its' trail map that literally didn't exist, and never existed on its' maps in years prior?
2) Am I really supposed to believe that an "accident" just happened to happen at the precise location of said "magical cut", which probably represents 0.0001% of their skiable terrain?
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