People Wearing Helmets Wrong

[deadheadskier]

we can have a normal respectful conversation with differing opinions

.......or we can keep heading down the path of personal attacks and lock the thread.

your choice folks

 

[wa-loaf]

we can have a normal respectful conversation with differing opinions

.......or we can keep heading down the path of personal attacks and lock the thread.

your choice folks

It's going to rain 3 inches tomorrow. Let people vent ...

 

[dmc]

This is why I don't ski Hunter anymore. The mountain is filled with DMC's

Very classy comeback... thank you but now - I must hide your posts going forward.. buh bye...

 

[dmc]

It's going to rain 3 inches tomorrow. Let people vent ...

Hoping it's snow on the front and rear of the storm.. And ice in the middle..

 

[dlague]

we can have a normal respectful conversation with differing opinions

.......or we can keep heading down the path of personal attacks and lock the thread.

your choice folks

Thank you!

 

[dmc]

Thank you!

Yes - nobody should say another persons statement is a

Douche bag statement!

 

[deadheadskier]

It's going to rain 3 inches tomorrow. Let people vent ...

interesting angle

moderating on a rain curve. maybe after 6" of rain during winter we'll consider a politics day on the forums :lol:

 

[dmc]

interesting angle

moderating on a rain curve. maybe after 6" of rain during winter we'll consider a politics day on the forums :lol:

If we get 6" I'm heading to high ground...

 

[drjeff]

The really apparent thing it seems is that there's a side here, myself included, that is speaking from the perspective of not just a skier/boarder with experience, but also that of a parent of skiers/boarders. And then there's a side without kids in this debate.

When you view what regularly happens on a hill, and the lack of consideration be it either from just not knowing the "rules of the road" or just not caring what others think, especially when you put your kids into the mix, your view of what is and isn't acceptable, and how it impacts others changes.

It's more about realizing that your actions can and do affect others, rather than it being all about one's self. If one is fine with skiing/riding either too close for anothers comfort or at a speed in an area that others deem too fast, then be aware that a bunch of people are likely too take issue with your actions.

 

[dmc]

I agree with most of that.. But my point is - it's perception. And expert will see things differently than a beginner..
So an expert should NEVER go fast on a beginner trail or a run out.. But that's not to say a beginner will still think they are going too fast or getting too close...

And I don't normally yell at families for taking up half a trail... Or stopping to take pictures... or any of that... Or race clinics for clogging trails or taking over lines.. It's all good.. haha..

 

[witch hobble]

Beginners and those that choose to protect them will shout the loudest..

Lets gnaw on this morsel for a bit.......are you attacking the newbie, inexperienced and vulnerable, and those that shepherd and provide guidance and context for them? Or revelling in flipping them off as they attempt to castigate you?

 

[Cheese]

we can have a normal respectful conversation with differing opinions

.......or we can keep heading down the path of personal attacks and lock the thread.

your choice folks

Ima buzz you while you're reading the skiers code on the back of your ticket.

 

[tree_skier]

So after reading through this I want to make sure I've gotten the correct direction of this thread.

The park rat that has his helmet way to far back on his head has just gotten tangle up with his pants down around his knees and fallen off of a feature, landing on top of his head and driven said helmet edge down onto his head thus giving him a concussion. He then struggles to get up due to the pants now being further down his legs but fortunately his butt is not too cold because his sweatshirt is also down to his knees. Making it back upright the park rat then proceeds down the trail seeing two ankle biters (really only one but with his freshly acquired concussion sees 2) making wedge turns in front of him tries to go between the 2 that he sees. He manages to just miss the perfect angel he passes with his very oversize clothing flapping like he's doing 100 but in reality is not going that fast.

Now the parent of the perfect angel is in a uproar and the park rat is wondering how he got to the mountain and why the old dude is yelling at him

 

[buellski]

So after reading through this I want to make sure I've gotten the correct direction of this thread.

The park rat that has his helmet way to far back on his head has just gotten tangle up with his pants down around his knees and fallen off of a feature, landing on top of his head and driven said helmet edge down onto his head thus giving him a concussion. He then struggles to get up due to the pants now being further down his legs but fortunately his butt is not too cold because his sweatshirt is also down to his knees. Making it back upright the park rat then proceeds down the trail seeing two ankle biters (really only one but with his freshly acquired concussion sees 2) making wedge turns in front of him tries to go between the 2 that he sees. He manages to just miss the perfect angel he passes with his very oversize clothing flapping like he's doing 100 but in reality is not going that fast.

Now the parent of the perfect angel is in a uproar and the park rat is wondering how he got to the mountain and why the old dude is yelling at him

 

[dmc]

Lets gnaw on this morsel for a bit.......are you attacking the newbie, inexperienced and vulnerable, and those that shepherd and provide guidance and context for them? Or revelling in flipping them off as they attempt to castigate you?

I'm sorry you took that as an attack...

It was just an opinion based upon experience... No more.. No less..

 

[witch hobble]

You don't have to be sorry. I'm just trying to understand the context of your observation. But if you have a large enough sampling of data on the subject of what type of skier/rider is most objectionably vocal when you buzz them then your actions probably deserve some scrutiny. And my interpretation of your statement was that you were devaluing their grievance or discomfort based on their ability.

I will not impugn your snowboard or hunter mountain, just your humanity

 

[deadheadskier]

Ima buzz you while you're reading the skiers code on the back of your ticket.

just don't knock over my beer and we're all good

 

[MadMadWorld]

The really apparent thing it seems is that there's a side here, myself included, that is speaking from the perspective of not just a skier/boarder with experience, but also that of a parent of skiers/boarders. And then there's a side without kids in this debate.

When you view what regularly happens on a hill, and the lack of consideration be it either from just not knowing the "rules of the road" or just not caring what others think, especially when you put your kids into the mix, your view of what is and isn't acceptable, and how it impacts others changes.

It's more about realizing that your actions can and do affect others, rather than it being all about one's self. If one is fine with skiing/riding either too close for anothers comfort or at a speed in an area that others deem too fast, then be aware that a bunch of people are likely too take issue with your actions.

Great points. I hate the sense of entitlement that some people think they have. Forget about kids......why should any skier have to worry about being hit by another person from behind? Takes some freaking responsibility! Find a trail that no one is on and ski it as fast you want. But if there is someone skiing below you than you need to be able to react to anything. It really annoys me to see people on this board who have this sense of entitlement.


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[dmc]

You don't have to be sorry. I'm just trying to understand the context of your observation. But if you have a large enough sampling of data on the subject of what type of skier/rider is most objectionably vocal when you buzz them then your actions probably deserve some scrutiny. And my interpretation of your statement was that you were devaluing their grievance or discomfort based on their ability.

I will not impugn your snowboard or hunter mountain, just your humanity

My observation(no sampling data to support this) is that...
People with kids and adult beginners/intermediates tend to be more vocal about people they perceive as passing too close or going too fast...

They either haven't developed the sense of what is actually dangerous, feel stupid because they are constantly being passed and are obviously in the way or they are protecting their children... Which I totally understand...

 

[deadheadskier]

I'm trying to recall the last time I saw anyone (other than ski patrol or mountain ambassadors) yelling at others for how they're skiing/riding. Maybe I don't run into often because I rarely ski on Saturdays and I tend to gravitate towards lower traffic areas on the mountain.