'14-'15 passes

[spiderpig]

If I were an Okemo pass holder, I'd be psyched to have the K passes for when Okemo finishes up for the season.

Interesting marketing partnership.

You would be psyched, except the Killington tickets are only valid through April 15. You could also be psyched early season, but they start being valid on December 1. Helps Killington protected the value of their passes, for sure, since you would have to "give up" a day at Okemo/Sunapee to use the free tickets.

Interesting that the K tickets are included with the Millennial Pass but not the Value Pass, which has a higher price point.

 

[drjeff]

I would pay for it if I knew major snowmaking upgrades were coming but I don't see Peak dropping a lot into it.

We'll see what happens, but I do know for a fact, that Peak has been (or at least whenever they've been able to make snow at Wildcat this year) conducting a company wide air/water snowmaking test/evaluation of all of the major players in the air/water snowmaking industry today. So they've been getting some hopefully good data, and will be ordering a bunch of new, efficient, high output guns for Wildcat this summer.

There's also a bunch of talk around Mount Snow about upgrades to their air/water guns for non fan guns trails, and that even started around Christmas time when they took delivery of about 2 dozen HKD impulse towers, as well as they've had a few other demo guns from other manufacturers around the mountain too this year. Only time, and press releases will tell though....

 

[deadheadskier]

New guns at Wildcat won't matter if they don't update the compressors to ensure enough pressure that they don't blow the pipes.

I think its bad business for Peaks to raise prices given the disaster they had at Wildcat this season.

 

[Tin]

New guns at Wildcat won't matter if they don't update the compressors to ensure enough pressure that they don't blow the pipes.

I think its bad business for Peaks to raise prices given the disaster they had at Wildcat this season.

Some vouchers or compensation would have been nice for current pass holders.

 

[drjeff]

Some vouchers or compensation would have been nice for current pass holders.

I haven't looked at the peak pass products for NH, but if I recall correctly there is no Wildcat only pass, its at least a Wildcat + Attitash combined pass, so even with Wildcat's snowmaking issues earlier this year, you still had an option a short distance away, so I'm not quite sure if vouchers are needed. Maybe an extra big "pass holders appreciation weekend" would be called for.

Personally knowing the Wildcat GM, I would be that the vast majority of Wildcat fans that have a pass that have spoken with him about what has happened this year, have a decent feeling about the steps that Brian has taken during this challenging 1st year as GM for him, to both make sure this CAN'T happen again and also that Wildcat is moving forward to a better Wildcat that still maintains what made it a big favorite in the 1st place

 

[Smellytele]

I haven't looked at the peak pass products for NH, but if I recall correctly there is no Wildcat only pass, its at least a Wildcat + Attitash combined pass, so even with Wildcat's snowmaking issues earlier this year, you still had an option a short distance away, so I'm not quite sure if vouchers are needed. Maybe an extra big "pass holders appreciation weekend" would be called for.

Personally knowing the Wildcat GM, I would be that the vast majority of Wildcat fans that have a pass that have spoken with him about what has happened this year, have a decent feeling about the steps that Brian has taken during this challenging 1st year as GM for him, to both make sure this CAN'T happen again and also that Wildcat is moving forward to a better Wildcat that still maintains what made it a big favorite in the 1st place

Wow drinking the Peak corporate kool-aid. :blink::lol:

 

[MadMadWorld]

New guns at Wildcat won't matter if they don't update the compressors to ensure enough pressure that they don't blow the pipes.

I think its bad business for Peaks to raise prices given the disaster they had at Wildcat this season.

It's ballsy to say the least. It's just salt in the wound to those that bought them this year. I wouldn't buy one next year on principle alone

 

[deadheadskier]

Dr Jeff,.....are you on the Peaks payroll? :lol:

 

[MadMadWorld]

I haven't looked at the peak pass products for NH, but if I recall correctly there is no Wildcat only pass, its at least a Wildcat + Attitash combined pass, so even with Wildcat's snowmaking issues earlier this year, you still had an option a short distance away, so I'm not quite sure if vouchers are needed. Maybe an extra big "pass holders appreciation weekend" would be called for.

Personally knowing the Wildcat GM, I would be that the vast majority of Wildcat fans that have a pass that have spoken with him about what has happened this year, have a decent feeling about the steps that Brian has taken during this challenging 1st year as GM for him, to both make sure this CAN'T happen again and also that Wildcat is moving forward to a better Wildcat that still maintains what made it a big favorite in the 1st place

I don't care if it's for both mountains to be honest. They are 2 completely different mountains to the avid Wildcatter. They buy the pass for Wildcat not for Attitash. And those people deserve to be pissed.

 

[drjeff]

Dr Jeff,.....are you on the Peaks payroll? :lol:

I only wish ;-)

Then I wouldn't be wondering how much $$ I'll be charging to the VISA card soon for my families next season's passes. I'm act actually kind of annoyed that Peak hasn't announced any pass prices for next season yet. They've usually done that by now - just a sign to me that with some of their passes for this season that they were trumped by some of their competition by announcing early last year and don't want the same thing to happen again! If they were 100% set and confident with their price point/value then they would put it out there already and start selling a few now - at least thats my take

 

[drjeff]

I don't care if it's for both mountains to be honest. They are 2 completely different mountains to the avid Wildcatter. They buy the pass for Wildcat not for Attitash. And those people deserve to be pissed.

Sugarloaf + Sunday River are also 2 different mountains with strong loyalties that have come to grips with Boyne's different operational plans for them than before. Not saying its right or wrong, just a business reality often when you have 2 properties in a "similar" area with often an overlapping customer base. This is the "ski INDUSTRY after all ;-)

 

[drjeff]

Wow drinking the Peak corporate kool-aid. :blink::lol:

Nope. Just have known their GM for a while and the type of guy he is and the environment from which he and a few other "young" Peak GM's came from. Personal qualities you can't fake and a GM that they all worked under before who is widely regarded as one of the best in the industry

 

[yeggous]

I only wish ;-)

Then I wouldn't be wondering how much $$ I'll be charging to the VISA card soon for my families next season's passes. I'm act actually kind of annoyed that Peak hasn't announced any pass prices for next season yet. They've usually done that by now - just a sign to me that with some of their passes for this season that they were trumped by some of their competition by announcing early last year and don't want the same thing to happen again! If they were 100% set and confident with their price point/value then they would put it out there already and start selling a few now - at least thats my take

I was told that they will post price to the web site first thing in the morning as soon as they go on sale. The girl on he he phone said they are being withheld "for marketing reasons".


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[deadheadskier]

It's ballsy to say the least. It's just salt in the wound to those that bought them this year. I wouldn't buy one next year on principle alone

Sugarloaf + Sunday River are also 2 different mountains with strong loyalties that have come to grips with Boyne's different operational plans for them than before. Not saying its right or wrong, just a business reality often when you have 2 properties in a "similar" area with often an overlapping customer base. This is the "ski INDUSTRY after all ;-)

Not a good comparison. "Most" wildcat skiers are not interested in Attitash at all.

 

[AdironRider]

Unless said resort is in Montana

With half the snowfall and terrain that wishes it was as good as Jackson.

 

[Smellytele]

We get tainted by our friendships and relationships we have with certain people and organization. There is always a person who will say " He was a great guy. I never thought he would...".
Also there are multiple people who have worked for great managers and they themselves are not good managers although they worked great in other capacities.

 

[snoseek]

Sugarloaf + Sunday River are also 2 different mountains with strong loyalties that have come to grips with Boyne's different operational plans for them than before. Not saying its right or wrong, just a business reality often when you have 2 properties in a "similar" area with often an overlapping customer base. This is the "ski INDUSTRY after all ;-)

Yeah but for the most part Boyne went in and ran those areas like a boss. A few winters ago I spent back east and carried this pass and was real happy with the way they ran both resorts. Everyone I know that frequents those areas were almost immediately happy after the buyout. This is not the case from what it sounds like over in NH...not even close.

 

[snoseek]

The more I think about it, the more I think I need one more winter at Kirkwood. The terrain is awesome, the pass is free, the job is fun (and nights) and usually the snow is ridiculously deep. Also my living situation is impossible to beat on so many levels. This winter has been real tough and the past three have been well below average, yet the wood consistently delivers good times, even during the bad times. We'll see

 

[ScottySkis]

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[Euler]

I haven't looked at the peak pass products for NH, but if I recall correctly there is no Wildcat only pass, its at least a Wildcat + Attitash combined pass, so even with Wildcat's snowmaking issues earlier this year, you still had an option a short distance away, so I'm not quite sure if vouchers are needed. Maybe an extra big "pass holders appreciation weekend" would be called for.

Personally knowing the Wildcat GM, I would be that the vast majority of Wildcat fans that have a pass that have spoken with him about what has happened this year, have a decent feeling about the steps that Brian has taken during this challenging 1st year as GM for him, to both make sure this CAN'T happen again and also that Wildcat is moving forward to a better Wildcat that still maintains what made it a big favorite in the 1st place

Dr j is moving beyond the normal "mt snow can do no wrong" into full blown "peak resorts can do no wrong" lol. How much kickback do you get for your incessant cheerleading?