I'll tell you that Utah wants to host again because the facilities are in great shape and used regularly.
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I'll tell you that Utah wants to host again because the facilities are in great shape and used regularly.
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ScottySkis
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+1 and they made Snowbasin resort bathroom bigger then most studios in NYC.
steamboat1
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Thanks Romney
dlague
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We the best way to start is to ditch low attendance sports that require huge and expensive build outs. Also reduce the size of the opening and closing ceremonies - they have gotten way out of hand.
machski
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Then the IOC will have to change its stance first. Snowbasin no longer qualifies for an Olympic DH. It actually never did, the IOC gave it a waiver. Since then though, they have been adamant that waivers will not be issued. Think you could get the DH at Snowbird now?
SIKSKIER
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Snowbasin was 2897 vf.Is 3000 the minimum cuz all I could find was this from Wiki:
In order to meet the minimum vertical drop requirement of 800 metres (2,625 feet), the starting gate was in a newly constructed lodge at the mountain's summit, with a connecting ramp to the mountain prope
In order to meet the minimum vertical drop requirement of 800 metres (2,625 feet), the starting gate was in a newly constructed lodge at the mountain's summit, with a connecting ramp to the mountain prope
ThinkSnow
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steamboat1
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If that's really the case they could build a pyramid on top similar to what they did at Le Massif. Granted it was easier to do at Le Massif being the summit is accessible by motorized vehicles. Bet that tram could hold a lot of dirt though.
drjeff
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Picture of the downhill starting gate with Gondola access. Grade of start is 62% or 31 degrees.
If they really needed to, they could also shift the start off to the Mt. Ogden side of that picture of the tram (to the left of the tram's haul rope line) and have the start be up there, then come down between the base of the Tram and the John Paul Lodge before hanging a right and on to the crazy twists and turns that Bernard Russi designed with the Grizzly and Wildflower DH courses!
Of note, I actually skied out of the mens (Grizzly) DH start less than a week after the 2002 games ended, and due to a lack of significant natural snow falling since the DH was held (you could still easily make out the dye used to mark the location of the gates and the directional lines) the snow surface was still essentially world cup level firm, and lets just say that the "pucker factor" was high on that pitch, and just the small, NARROW ridgeline connector trail from the top of the Tram down to that start house can be enough to give people with fear of heights some tense moments
ThinkSnow
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I skied it as well a few years back (2010?), and "pucker factor" is an accurate way to put it. If I remember correctly the Tram operator mentioned that many of the Olympic athletes took issue with the steepness of the start. Don't know if moving the start over to the other side would be possible, depending on the pitch.
drjeff
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I actually back in 2002 when I was there (the Para-olympic DH training runs were going on from a lower start point just below the John Paul Lodge) saw one of the para - olympic athletes with only 1 leg, straightline out of the DH start down that pitch (and they hadn't winched catted that pitch the night before either!!), both my wife and I were in awe of that sight!!!
As for possibly moving the start to the Mt Ogden side and it's pitch, I do see on some other ski forums, trip reports of people hiking up Mt. Ogden and skiing down it, back into the maintained terrain of Snowbasin, so I'm guessing that it could be done, but that's just me eye-balling it with no scientific basis!
catsup948
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Lake Placid wants to make a bid at the 2026 Olympics. Interesting idea. Big players in the US up against them though, Anchorage, Salt Lake City, Denver, Reno.
Would be cool, but I just don't see them having the infrastructure for a modern games. It's not 1980 with people watching the miracle on ice on tape delay. Thousands more spectators and athletes today.
ss20
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2 weeks ago I would've said that the "ice coast" reputation kills Lake Placid. But the Olympics were just sold to a hill with no snow so that logic is out the window.
ThinkSnow
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It would be good for the games to be held in LP in order to "reinvigorate" the local infrastructure.
Whitey
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I am probably going to get torched for this given the fiasco that “Boston 2024” just was. But I always thought Boston would be a better winter Olympics site than a site for the summer olympics. You could have the hockey/figure skating/”big events” in the Boston area (TD Garden). Curling and speed skating and stuff like that could be at some of the university sites & other venues like that (Tsongas, BU, BC, etc.). Then you have the skiing at 2 or 3 mtns up north. You’d have to put the downhill at a big mountain like Sugarloaf or Jay and then have some of the other events like jumping and freestyle at a more accessible place like Loon, Cannon, Mt Snow, Kmart, etc. Or just pick Jay or Sugarloaf and make that where all of the skiing is.
The Olympic committee would have to go for a concept that includes “it will take you four hours to drive from a hockey game to a downhill ski race”. But given the lack of interest from cities to host these days I think they might be willing to consider something a little more outside the box.
The Olympic committee would have to go for a concept that includes “it will take you four hours to drive from a hockey game to a downhill ski race”. But given the lack of interest from cities to host these days I think they might be willing to consider something a little more outside the box.
Problem is, Whiteface is the only mountain in the east that can host a men's downhill. I believe Le Massif is long enough for women, but not men.
Unless of course we hire the Chinese to build a new ski area on North and South Twin Mountains of NH.
Unless of course we hire the Chinese to build a new ski area on North and South Twin Mountains of NH.
St. Bear
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I've seen people throw out a Boston/NY joint bid, where the skiing events are held in Lake Placid, and the other events are in Boston and NYC.
ss20
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It's too bad that the Stairway at Sundaown is too steep for a downhill race. Then we could have the Oylimpics at Harford with a 40-year-old convention center and gridlock traffic from the NY border all the way across 84.
correct, they even built up the summit an extra 30 meters for the Canada games course, but it's still too short for olympic men's downhill.
They floated the idea of ending the race on a barge in the river, but that didn't fly. I read somewhere that it wasn't the height that was the biggest problem, it was a flat spot mid way down the hill.
There was some talk of building a resort on Mount Albert in the heart of the Gaspee, but I don't know how serious that was. They won't really let you up there to ski because of a Caribou habitat, couple that with the fact that very few people would utilize the resort after the games makes it unreasonable.
For personal reasons, I would love the best lift served skiing (terrain AND snow wise) east of the Rockies to be a 5 hour drive away, but I guess I'll have to settle for the best backcountry
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