24" at the Loaf

[newenglandskier1]

Title says it all. 24 at the top 14 at the bottom. Cant wait to hit it up this weekend!

 

[WJenness]

Yep, the Loaf definitely won this storm.

Should be a HELL of a Thanksgiving weekend for them.

GO THE LOAF!

-w

 

[SIKSKIER]

I saw that they reported 2 feet but it makes me wonder why they did not open any new trails.They showed the same 6 as yesterday.
Looking at the update on the website,they sure seem to have a lot of snow though.

 

[loafer89]

The ski patrol is probably being extra cautious to make sure that as much powder as possible is tracked out before they can safely open any more trails.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I saw that they reported 2 feet but it makes me wonder why they did not open any new trails.They showed the same 6 as yesterday.
Looking at the update on the website,they sure seem to have a lot of snow though.

The trails are not closed...they are reserved..I love when it takes ski patrollers a few days to open new terrain..by the time Goat at Stowe opens..it's usually already tracked out..

 

[hardline]

The trails are not closed...they are reserved..I love when it takes ski patrollers a few days to open new terrain..by the time Goat at Stowe opens..it's usually already tracked out..

but at stowe you give the patrole a wink and they nod back and its good to go. that like the storm we got last year in october. they where having as much fun as everyone else. plus at that time of year its locals anyway.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

but at stowe you give the patrole a wink and they nod back and its good to go. that like the storm we got last year in october. they where having as much fun as everyone else. plus at that time of year its locals anyway.

Me and and Boarder friend poached Hayride at Stowe when it was untracked and there was a patroller at the bottom waiting for us and he simply said.."You guys be careful". I try to ski a little slower on closed runs because if I got injured..I'd be screwed..the same as sidecountry and roadside turns in PA.

 

[bigbog]

....localized snow!

Very localized snowfall....will be either Friday or Saturday before I get over there...:angry:
Oh well...

STeveD

 

[bobbutts]

yeah localized the farther north and higher elevation you go.

 

[deadheadskier]

I saw that they reported 2 feet but it makes me wonder why they did not open any new trails.They showed the same 6 as yesterday.
Looking at the update on the website,they sure seem to have a lot of snow though.

right?

One would think that with that amount of new snow at least 50% of the mountain would be open.

 

[rueler]

but at stowe you give the patrole a wink and they nod back and its good to go. that like the storm we got last year in october. they where having as much fun as everyone else. plus at that time of year its locals anyway.

I agree! From my experience, I have seen the Stowe patrol look the other way plenty of times in regard to poaching. I've seen them crack down too though!! They'll leave you alone if you lay low and appear to know what you're doing...the time I saw them rip a guy's ticket, it was clear that he didn't belong on a closed Chin Clip. The dude was having a really hard time on the second steeper pitch of the trail in about 1' of late spring fresh...meaning there were some spots underneath the fresh that would be a bit "dicey"(bare spots, ledge, etc)... They were nice to him, but took his ticket. I think they were insuring that they wouldn't be hauliing him out on a sled later. The two patrollers didn't bother with me and my buddy who were waiting just upslope of the situation. I didn't think they saw us...but, we ran into them a run or two later on chin clip again and they just chatted it up with us.

 

[deadheadskier]

I agree! From my experience, I have seen the Stowe patrol look the other way plenty of times in regard to poaching. I've seen them crack down too though!! They'll leave you alone if you lay low and appear to know what you're doing...the time I saw them rip a guy's ticket, it was clear that he didn't belong on a closed Chin Clip. The dude was having a really hard time on the second steeper pitch of the trail in about 1' of late spring fresh...meaning there were some spots underneath the fresh that would be a bit "dicey"(bare spots, ledge, etc)... They were nice to him, but took his ticket. I think they were insuring that they wouldn't be hauliing him out on a sled later. The two patrollers didn't bother with me and my buddy who were waiting just upslope of the situation. I didn't think they saw us...but, we ran into them a run or two later on chin clip again and they just chatted it up with us.

I've had similar experiences during my years at Stowe, especially early season and I'm not sure if I agree with selective pass removals.

With the long standing culture at that mountain of people skiing whatever they feel comfortable handling, I think most patrolers realize they'd be fighting an uphill battle enforcing trail closures.

 

[salsgang]

SLoaf got their share of rain too. Check out this post on the Sugarloaf Community forum.

http://community.sugarloaf.com/forum/topics/suggestioncomplaint-1

They will get it buffed out and it will be fine by the weekend, but that's why I love the net & Alpinezone... able to see through the marketing snow reports to the real deal.

 

[millerm277]

One would think that with that amount of new snow at least 50% of the mountain would be open.

A guess here, but since there probably wasn't much in base before the storm, they might not feel comfortable opening terrain until it's thoroughly checked out and/or groomed.

 

[deadheadskier]

A guess here, but since there probably wasn't much in base before the storm, they might not feel comfortable opening terrain until it's thoroughly checked out and/or groomed.

no doubt precautions need to be taken early season, but you have to admit it seems a bit off to be boasting about the incredible two feet of snow you receive and then only offer 1 lift and 6 trails open.

 

[TheBEast]

but at stowe you give the patrole a wink and they nod back and its good to go. that like the storm we got last year in october. they where having as much fun as everyone else. plus at that time of year its locals anyway.

As a fellow patroller we reserve the right to reserve trails for ourselves :wink: well some of the time. Have to make sure its safe and all.....

 

[millerm277]

but at stowe you give the patrole a wink and they nod back and its good to go. that like the storm we got last year in october. they where having as much fun as everyone else. plus at that time of year its locals anyway.

Know what you're doing, and don't be interfering with mountain operations (say, skiing down a closed trail they're trying to groom, or that has snowmaking equipment everywhere)....and most patrollers won't "see you".

 

[hardline]

I've had similar experiences during my years at Stowe, especially early season and I'm not sure if I agree with selective pass removals.

With the long standing culture at that mountain of people skiing whatever they feel comfortable handling, I think most patrolers realize they'd be fighting an uphill battle enforcing trail closures.

i think it comes from the fact that alot of people that use the mountain in winter use it in summer and know the place well. plus so many of us use the mountain in the early and late season. that the patrol knows most of us know what we ae doing but if there is someone who is obviously not cutting it it they sould be repramanded hard because at stowe you can really hurt yourself real quick.

As a fellow patroller we reserve the right to reserve trails for ourselves :wink: well some of the time. Have to make sure its safe and all.....

they dont reserve anything. they just put up ropes to keep the unskilled out.

 

[deadheadskier]

i think it comes from the fact that alot of people that use the mountain in winter use it in summer and know the place well. plus so many of us use the mountain in the early and late season. that the patrol knows most of us know what we ae doing but if there is someone who is obviously not cutting it it they sould be repramanded hard because at stowe you can really hurt yourself real quick.

I understand what you're saying, but I still take a somewhat ACLU stance on it. A person 'in the know' winks and heads down the trail with no worries. A noob heads down and gets his ticket clipped and booted off the mountain for the day. Both paid $80 for the day.

I guess what I'm getting at is that the decision of patrol is 100% subjective. I'm highly confident in my own ability/judgment to duck a rope at Stowe and make it down without harm. Because I'm no longer a local and have only skied Stowe about a dozen times in the past six years, I might not get the same treatment from them as you even if I'm equally as skilled at tackling the terrain.

Guess I just think even the noobs should get off with a warning or two and not be penalized because a patroler in his subjective opinion might need to call in a sled.

 

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