$250 Magic Mtn Freedom Pass under 30

[xwhaler]

Not quite sure I understand the explosion but oh well. I just checked it out, and this is a pretty cool product, I hadn't realized they had expanded west. It would be useful to making a Southern Colorado/New Mexico trip in a year the snow is good down there. I enjoy most of the east coast selections as well. Magic is a real feather in their cap. I thought Suicide Six was in with them last year as well but I could be wrong. If costs are a problem that's not a bad solution.

Alex

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

S6 wasn't in with them but King Pine was. They are not part of it this yr

 

[RustyGroomer]

I was going to complain about how I get to ski, but then I decided I'd rather be a poor single mother working 80 hour weeks in a delapidated multistory sweatshop in a blighted area of this world sewing cheap garments to be sold as expensive outdoors attire for those who complain about how they get to ski, or be ripped from my family, watch them raped and then hacked to death, then be forced by the local guerilla forces to slave away at a mine owned and managed by ignorant slobs 5000 miles away so the same aforementioned skiers can have the raw materials to make the skis they complain about using.

Thanks for ruining the thread. I hope I never meet any of you self-centered, bigoted, naive assholes. You could enjoy life without skiing. If you can't be grateful for when you can ski, go back to school so you understand the market forces that determine your fiscal circumstances. Your local community college is probably as much as your skiing habit.

So can you get discounts on these garments?

 

[SIKSKIER]

I must have missed something here.

 

[spring_mountain_high]

dafuq happened in here?

i think some angry young person posted a WHITE HOT TAKE on how people shouldn't complain on the internet :lol:

 

[dlague]

Ya and I am tired people telling us how we should free or what perspective we should have.

Plain and simple, back to the original conversation. While ski resorts are targeting the 20 somethings with good pass deals to keep them hooked, the 30-50 somethings are the ones that have higher rents or mortgages, kids that they are paying for to get into the sport and other life expenses. Not all mind you. The struggle is real. But we have our priorities right?

 

[cdskier]

While ski resorts are targeting the 20 somethings with good pass deals to keep them hooked, the 30-50 somethings are the ones that have higher rents or mortgages, kids that they are paying for to get into the sport and other life expenses. Not all mind you. The struggle is real. But we have our priorities right?

You're starting to see at least a couple ski areas target people in their early 30s (30-34/35) with new deals now too (Stowe and Sugarbush at least). It will be interesting to see if that trend continues.

 

[steamboat1]

You're starting to see at least a couple ski areas target people in their early 30s (30-34/35) with new deals now too (Stowe and Sugarbush at least). It will be interesting to see if that trend continues.

Well the boomer pass at Sugarbush sure as hell isn't targeting that market. Actually the best deal out there. Just a few more years.

 

[JamaicaMan]

Magic is starting to give real discounts to those with families too...couples get a break and youth passes (6-17) are only $199 now (~$250 less than last year). Well, that will be the case once the closing happens...


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[Keelhauled]

At some point every possible demographic is going to get their very own discount, once management figures out that the sport is too damn expensive for anyone at list price...

 

[coolflippers]

There are plenty of affordable ways to ski.

The majority of folks' complaints on this thread lie with ritzy resorts.

Starting with Stowe and Hermitage and wending one's way down the panoply of posh peaks, it becomes clear that such resorts cater to those particular animals which spend their time making and wasting money. Generally speaking, these are bipeds whose last days in shape were decades ago. They have difficulty skiing bumps, which is why the bumps are groomed.

Good skiing requires a saw, snow, and snowshoes or skins. After that, a long loop of cable wrapped around two wheels and from which chairs are suspended, the wheels spun by a motor. Then, a groomer. Lastly, a large pump, a hose, a bunch of fans. With proper management, this heavy equipment can be improved. However, short parking and access roads, nothing else is required.

If you feel sorry for yourself, because Stratton is expensive, have fun living in a shoebox in NYC. You can get two season passes full boat to a number of top resorts, worldwide, for one month's rent, spare yourself the caged insanity.

I am wholly excited for a $250 season pass. I am excited for the benefits of the Freedom Pass (Plattekill), and for 1/2 price Whaleback tickets. I will go to as many of these sub-1000' true-vert packaged ski areas as I can, and take my niece and nephews, because it is easier to appreciate a hill with kids who aren't so spoiled as to expect thousands of feet of prominence and sweeping views of multiple states.

Again, I hope I never ski with any of you who complained about the price of skiing. You are all too rich and snobby for me, apparently. And I work in vulture capital. I suppose, after I endeavour for multiple graduate degrees, get married and raise a family while on food stamps at school, and hack away at my computer parsing the fine print of security contracts and financial statements, I will figure out a way to go skiing. I may not be lucky enough to own my residence and pay off a mortgage - I wish I could afford a down-payment within 60 minutes of the office - but I am lucky enough to have affordable ways to ski. I'll go right back to building jumps on the nearest hill, if I have to.

 

[dlague]

Deplorables!

 

[spring_mountain_high]

There are plenty of affordable ways to ski.

The majority of folks' complaints on this thread lie with ritzy resorts.

Starting with Stowe and Hermitage and wending one's way down the panoply of posh peaks, it becomes clear that such resorts cater to those particular animals which spend their time making and wasting money. Generally speaking, these are bipeds whose last days in shape were decades ago. They have difficulty skiing bumps, which is why the bumps are groomed.

Good skiing requires a saw, snow, and snowshoes or skins. After that, a long loop of cable wrapped around two wheels and from which chairs are suspended, the wheels spun by a motor. Then, a groomer. Lastly, a large pump, a hose, a bunch of fans. With proper management, this heavy equipment can be improved. However, short parking and access roads, nothing else is required.

If you feel sorry for yourself, because Stratton is expensive, have fun living in a shoebox in NYC. You can get two season passes full boat to a number of top resorts, worldwide, for one month's rent, spare yourself the caged insanity.

I am wholly excited for a $250 season pass. I am excited for the benefits of the Freedom Pass (Plattekill), and for 1/2 price Whaleback tickets. I will go to as many of these sub-1000' true-vert packaged ski areas as I can, and take my niece and nephews, because it is easier to appreciate a hill with kids who aren't so spoiled as to expect thousands of feet of prominence and sweeping views of multiple states.

Again, I hope I never ski with any of you who complained about the price of skiing. You are all too rich and snobby for me, apparently. And I work in vulture capital. I suppose, after I endeavour for multiple graduate degrees, get married and raise a family while on food stamps at school, and hack away at my computer parsing the fine print of security contracts and financial statements, I will figure out a way to go skiing. I may not be lucky enough to own my residence and pay off a mortgage - I wish I could afford a down-payment within 60 minutes of the office - but I am lucky enough to have affordable ways to ski. I'll go right back to building jumps on the nearest hill, if I have to.

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this site is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

 

[farlep99]

There are plenty of affordable ways to ski.

The majority of folks' complaints on this thread lie with ritzy resorts.

Starting with Stowe and Hermitage and wending one's way down the panoply of posh peaks, it becomes clear that such resorts cater to those particular animals which spend their time making and wasting money. Generally speaking, these are bipeds whose last days in shape were decades ago. They have difficulty skiing bumps, which is why the bumps are groomed.

Good skiing requires a saw, snow, and snowshoes or skins. After that, a long loop of cable wrapped around two wheels and from which chairs are suspended, the wheels spun by a motor. Then, a groomer. Lastly, a large pump, a hose, a bunch of fans. With proper management, this heavy equipment can be improved. However, short parking and access roads, nothing else is required.

If you feel sorry for yourself, because Stratton is expensive, have fun living in a shoebox in NYC. You can get two season passes full boat to a number of top resorts, worldwide, for one month's rent, spare yourself the caged insanity.

I am wholly excited for a $250 season pass. I am excited for the benefits of the Freedom Pass (Plattekill), and for 1/2 price Whaleback tickets. I will go to as many of these sub-1000' true-vert packaged ski areas as I can, and take my niece and nephews, because it is easier to appreciate a hill with kids who aren't so spoiled as to expect thousands of feet of prominence and sweeping views of multiple states.

Again, I hope I never ski with any of you who complained about the price of skiing. You are all too rich and snobby for me, apparently. And I work in vulture capital. I suppose, after I endeavour for multiple graduate degrees, get married and raise a family while on food stamps at school, and hack away at my computer parsing the fine print of security contracts and financial statements, I will figure out a way to go skiing. I may not be lucky enough to own my residence and pay off a mortgage - I wish I could afford a down-payment within 60 minutes of the office - but I am lucky enough to have affordable ways to ski. I'll go right back to building jumps on the nearest hill, if I have to.

You sound like a really fun person to ski with

 

[RustyGroomer]

you guys read all that?

 

[JimG.]

at no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this site is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on your soul.

potd!

 

[4aprice]

There are plenty of affordable ways to ski.

The majority of folks' complaints on this thread lie with ritzy resorts.

Starting with Stowe and Hermitage and wending one's way down the panoply of posh peaks, it becomes clear that such resorts cater to those particular animals which spend their time making and wasting money. Generally speaking, these are bipeds whose last days in shape were decades ago. They have difficulty skiing bumps, which is why the bumps are groomed.

Good skiing requires a saw, snow, and snowshoes or skins. After that, a long loop of cable wrapped around two wheels and from which chairs are suspended, the wheels spun by a motor. Then, a groomer. Lastly, a large pump, a hose, a bunch of fans. With proper management, this heavy equipment can be improved. However, short parking and access roads, nothing else is required.

If you feel sorry for yourself, because Stratton is expensive, have fun living in a shoebox in NYC. You can get two season passes full boat to a number of top resorts, worldwide, for one month's rent, spare yourself the caged insanity.

I am wholly excited for a $250 season pass. I am excited for the benefits of the Freedom Pass (Plattekill), and for 1/2 price Whaleback tickets. I will go to as many of these sub-1000' true-vert packaged ski areas as I can, and take my niece and nephews, because it is easier to appreciate a hill with kids who aren't so spoiled as to expect thousands of feet of prominence and sweeping views of multiple states.

Again, I hope I never ski with any of you who complained about the price of skiing. You are all too rich and snobby for me, apparently. And I work in vulture capital. I suppose, after I endeavour for multiple graduate degrees, get married and raise a family while on food stamps at school, and hack away at my computer parsing the fine print of security contracts and financial statements, I will figure out a way to go skiing. I may not be lucky enough to own my residence and pay off a mortgage - I wish I could afford a down-payment within 60 minutes of the office - but I am lucky enough to have affordable ways to ski. I'll go right back to building jumps on the nearest hill, if I have to.

So your point is what?

You've bought yourself a Pass set up that lets you ski a variety of areas that you seem to enjoy, no? Cause if your not happy why did you buy it?

You then go on to (and I don't know how else to put this )attack the clientel of other areas and other peoples preferences, why?

I don't know, I ski for fun, but you won't know that because I will be at resorts that you would never go to with the pass I bought, paid for and that I am happy with. Enjoy your season.

Alex

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

 

[Jully]

There are plenty of affordable ways to ski.

The majority of folks' complaints on this thread lie with ritzy resorts.

Starting with Stowe and Hermitage and wending one's way down the panoply of posh peaks, it becomes clear that such resorts cater to those particular animals which spend their time making and wasting money. Generally speaking, these are bipeds whose last days in shape were decades ago. They have difficulty skiing bumps, which is why the bumps are groomed.

Good skiing requires a saw, snow, and snowshoes or skins. After that, a long loop of cable wrapped around two wheels and from which chairs are suspended, the wheels spun by a motor. Then, a groomer. Lastly, a large pump, a hose, a bunch of fans. With proper management, this heavy equipment can be improved. However, short parking and access roads, nothing else is required.

If you feel sorry for yourself, because Stratton is expensive, have fun living in a shoebox in NYC. You can get two season passes full boat to a number of top resorts, worldwide, for one month's rent, spare yourself the caged insanity.

I am wholly excited for a $250 season pass. I am excited for the benefits of the Freedom Pass (Plattekill), and for 1/2 price Whaleback tickets. I will go to as many of these sub-1000' true-vert packaged ski areas as I can, and take my niece and nephews, because it is easier to appreciate a hill with kids who aren't so spoiled as to expect thousands of feet of prominence and sweeping views of multiple states.

Again, I hope I never ski with any of you who complained about the price of skiing. You are all too rich and snobby for me, apparently. And I work in vulture capital. I suppose, after I endeavour for multiple graduate degrees, get married and raise a family while on food stamps at school, and hack away at my computer parsing the fine print of security contracts and financial statements, I will figure out a way to go skiing. I may not be lucky enough to own my residence and pay off a mortgage - I wish I could afford a down-payment within 60 minutes of the office - but I am lucky enough to have affordable ways to ski. I'll go right back to building jumps on the nearest hill, if I have to.

Most everyone on this board enjoys skiing and would always rather be skiing than not. Additionally, we are willing to and do spend a lot of money on skiing and are aware of this luxury and choice. No one feels entitled to anything. A huge portion of my disposable income goes towards this sport and I am 100% okay with that and more importantly I'm aware of how lucky I am. It is just not constantly at the forefront of my mind. I know many truly wonderful, empathetic, and charitable individuals and none of them constantly think to themselves "I might be stuck in a 3 hour traffic jam right now, but at least I'm not starving in the middle east."

People complain about all sorts of things, traffic, fruit prices, and season ski pass prices. While there are certainly many privileged and spoiled people in the world, by enlarge the members of this forum are not that. A snapshot of posts on the internet from people you know very little about might just make them come off as more spoiled and privileged than they really are.

If your friend said "Man! I'm so mad I need to get new tires for my car and the price has gone up SO much since I last bought tires. How unfair!" Would you respond with "You don't NEED a car. You could be a starving mother of 12 in Africa with a dead husband and father." ? This isn't a whole lot different than that in my opinion, the internet and the fact that you haven't met these individuals before is just skewing your perception. This board is very very very far from the snooty skiing elite that views skiing as a way of showing wealth and bragging to your friends about how rich you are. In fact most of us hate that about the ski industry and get frustrated when ads in ski magazines focus solely on the glitz and glam of places like Deer Valley.

 

[cdskier]

People complain about all sorts of things, traffic, fruit prices, and season ski pass prices. While there are certainly many privileged and spoiled people in the world, by enlarge the members of this forum are not that.

+1

And to be honest, I think people have every right to vent and complain about the price of skiing. Yes, we all realize it is expensive and it is our choice to spend money on it, but I think many of us are arguing that the rate of increase in pass and day ticket prices is simply not sustainable and will drive away the average skier and also prevent any possible growth in the sport. And to be fair, I do think some resorts are addressing that with a lot of the new tiered pricing for different age groups. I know the post that we're all responding to now mentions "ritzy" resorts...but I think the issue is much bigger than that. When a number of resorts are either breaking or approaching the $100 day ticket price, that's something we should all be concerned about. If it was only "ritzy" places like Stowe, ok, one could argue that they are targeting a certain high-end demographic. But when places like K and Sugarbush are at or above that mark as well, that's an issue as those places are certainly not what I would consider "ritzy" resorts that cater to the high-end crowd.

 

[JimG.]

+1

And to be honest, I think people have every right to vent and complain about the price of skiing. Yes, we all realize it is expensive and it is our choice to spend money on it, but I think many of us are arguing that the rate of increase in pass and day ticket prices is simply not sustainable and will drive away the average skier and also prevent any possible growth in the sport. And to be fair, I do think some resorts are addressing that with a lot of the new tiered pricing for different age groups. I know the post that we're all responding to now mentions "ritzy" resorts...but I think the issue is much bigger than that. When a number of resorts are either breaking or approaching the $100 day ticket price, that's something we should all be concerned about. If it was only "ritzy" places like Stowe, ok, one could argue that they are targeting a certain high-end demographic. But when places like K and Sugarbush are at or above that mark as well, that's an issue as those places are certainly not what I would consider "ritzy" resorts that cater to the high-end crowd.

Your commentary could easily be applied to the entire US economy. Everything is either stupid expensive or cheap crap that's not so cheap anymore. Most folks are having a tough time making ends meet. And there is a lot of anger.

Debating the rising costs of skiing is admittedly a first world issue. And it sounds like flip has a beef with the 1% crowd none of whom I think post here.

 

[Los]

I only posted 2 things prior to that last post.

1) Happy to see the $250 pass

2) That your signature wasn't updated for '15-'16

Not once did I expound upon how unfortunately expensive skiing is.

I know precisely how much my skiing costs. I will never complain if I can't afford it. I can count the days I've gone skiing, including with nephews and nieces on beginner slopes, on my hands since college in 2010. I could not afford skiing last year. I am excited about having some additional disposable income this season and an affordable pass option.

This thread was not meant to be an opportunity to splenetically complain about the cost of skiing. Clearly, nothing about the original post indicated as much.

If you would rather have more money, quit skiing, move to a big city, dump all your earnings on education, and stay at work 80+ hours a week. While doing so, do not complain about your fiscal straits. We are lucky to even have time for Alpine Zone, let alone even entertain the thought of skiing.

You could also put snowshoes on and hike up the hill. Snowshoes cost about as much as a couple lift tickets and last a lifetime.

You seriously used the word 'splenetically'? 'SPLENETICALLY'?!?!?!?


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