Uphill Resort Skinning… a warning

[skimagic]

I completely agree and have no issues what-so-ever with this. You can't just do whatever you want on private property. (Heck even on public property there are still rules you need to follow).

it's just going to be a fine to send a message to others to buy a ticket if you want to play there. I suppose they could of skinned up the alpine peak next door. there are backcoubtry huts there.

 

[raisingarizona]

Its that dog gone entitlement fever that seems to be running high in the USA. Maybe we need more Eagle Point responses to tamp it down some.

Damn straight. They’re protecting their product. The paying customers expect fresh runs after a good storm and their midweek closure. If they didn’t do anything what message would that send to the public? People would see that as a free for all and a ski area policy they don’t have to respect. Good for Eagle point.

One criticism of the ski area I’d have is if it’s not signed at the bottom as such it would kind of be a dick move to go straight for the arrest instead of a talking to. Hopefully the rules are posted as such if not it may have been an honest mistake.

Even if EP was on NF lands you wouldn’t be entitled to go do whatever you want. Many ski areas don’t allow uphill travel because it impacts their operations and can be a public safety problem. There are federal laws for this and you can be charged for a theft of services.

I know this because I’ve been arrested and on other occasions escorted from property.

I guess I’ve grown up since then

 

[eatskisleep]

 

[JimG.]

Total assholes who make others bear the negative consequences of their entitled behavior.

 

[jimmywilson69]

that's unfortunate 1 asshole can ruin it for everyone...

I'm hopeful that our newly blossoming uphill community here at Roundtop doesn't end up like this. Everyone seems to be following the rules that I've encountered so far.

 

[JimG.]

that's unfortunate 1 asshole can ruin it for everyone...

I'm hopeful that our newly blossoming uphill community here at Roundtop doesn't end up like this. Everyone seems to be following the rules that I've encountered so far.

I think we can assume that next season at the latest we will see most ski areas institute an uphill travel pass. It won't cost $20 either.
I'll guess $150-200 will be the price in most cases. And I agree it is a shame that mostly law abiding people are being punished now. Somehow that seems to always be the case in these situations. I wonder how long it will take before most people get sick and tired of being forced to live a lowest common denominator life because of entitled jerks and take action.

 

[Smellytele]

I think we can assume that next season at the latest we will see most ski areas institute an uphill travel pass. It won't cost $20 either.
I'll guess $150-200 will be the price in most cases. And I agree it is a shame that mostly law abiding people are being punished now. Somehow that seems to always be the case in these situations. I wonder how long it will take before most people get sick and tired of being forced to live a lowest common denominator life because of entitled jerks and take action.

Pats peak has a season uphill pass for $29 this year

 

[gnardawg]

Just got an email from Andy Drummond saying Ski the Whites is closing their rental shop at Black and will no longer hold events there.

 

[Mainer]

A rental shop isn’t very profitable if you have nowhere to use the rentals.

 

[skimagic]

so essentially let everyone flaunt the rules or you won't get our buisness or services. what a joke.

 

[eatskisleep]

Just got an email from Andy Drummond saying Ski the Whites is closing their rental shop at Black and will no longer hold events there.

Wow wonder what the falling out was… you’d think he could still rent to people who would follow the rules… or go to doublehead. Sounds like they are butting heads now.

 

[2Planker]

Andrew Drummond and Ski The Whites was featured on Channel 5's Chronicle in Boston tonight.
Other MWV places featured were the Scandanavian Hotel, Villa Hygge and Cathedral Ledge Brewery.

They even mentioned that Black Mt "has had problems w/ trespassers on the uphill routes this year"

 

[pinion]

Post from StW:

A Thank You and Goodbye to Black Mt

Sounds amicable enough.

 

[So Inclined]

Scuttlebutt on a different forum suggests the end came for somewhat different - or at least more - reasons than just uphill poaching.

 

[pinion]

Scuttlebutt on a different forum suggests the end came for somewhat different - or at least more - reasons than just uphill poaching.

I was at Lostbo & Shovel Handle Sat night and heard nothing of this. I usually don't hunt around for rumors but you'd figure someone would mention something. Maybe not.

If any of that turns out to be true it's 1) completely believable, 2) a situation that could have been handed differently, and 3) won't meaningfully effect Black's bottom line - no loss for them - but definitely doesn't look good. Bummer. It was a cool and unique relationship.

 

[Riverveteran]

Too bad some can't follow the rules.

 

[Smellytele]

I have heard in the past that Black’s owner was kind of an ass but I never experienced it first hand.

 

[Edd]

Black Mountain owner says Ski the Whites events were 'like a bad high school dance' - New England Ski Journal

The divorce between Black Mountain and Ski the Whites really started brewing at the very beginning of the relationship.

www.skijournal.com

 

[jimmywilson69]

Good article. I can see the owners point.

 

[thetrailboss]

Black Mountain owner says Ski the Whites events were 'like a bad high school dance' - New England Ski Journal

The divorce between Black Mountain and Ski the Whites really started brewing at the very beginning of the relationship.

www.skijournal.com

Yeah 500 people showing up with no proper control spells disaster. And I completely get the concern about BYOB with a liquor license.