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"Artificial" Open Bowl Skiing in the East

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An incredibly active thread despite being the stupidest thread ever created. I'll soon create the second stupidest thread ever created with the hope that people will be drawn to it as much as they were to this one. By the way, kudos to blue knob, PA for creating an artificial bowl. Seems like it's a wildly popular trail over there. Their skiers, like us, seem to really be drawn to stupid things.
 

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It is likely grown up with saplings and complete shit. As Metsky said, you don't need a trail out there, things are open and beautiful as is. The illegal trail ruined that particular swath in the long run.

Yeah I'm wondering what it's like today after 4 years. Should be fresh growth.

Still isn't it ironic that when we have slides at whiteface, it's exciting for the runs to change, but then tragic here? :dontknow:

Anyway. I've never done just backcountry skiing, other than Tucks. I'd love to try it this year.
 

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Yeah I'm wondering what it's like today after 4 years. Should be fresh growth.

Still isn't it ironic that when we have slides at whiteface, it's exciting for the runs to change, but then tragic here? :dontknow:

Anyway. I've never done just backcountry skiing, other than Tucks. I'd love to try it this year.

The guys cut a trail without permission on protected state habitat. It was 3/4 a mile long and 60 feet wide in some areas. The slide, on the otherhand, was a natural act. There is quite a difference.
 

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The guys cut a trail without permission on protected state habitat. It was 3/4 a mile long and 60 feet wide in some areas. The slide, on the otherhand, was a natural act. There is quite a difference.

I know ... and I'm not defending what the guys did. All I'm saying is the result is fairly similar, isn't it? A swath of trees and vegetation gone?
 

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I know ... and I'm not defending what the guys did. All I'm saying is the result is fairly similar, isn't it? A swath of trees and vegetation gone?

Ask the two guys that made the cut if it was similar. I am sure they had some time to think about it. :roll:
 

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I know ... and I'm not defending what the guys did. All I'm saying is the result is fairly similar, isn't it? A swath of trees and vegetation gone?

On the very abstract level I guess. But looking at the actions, one upshot of their actions were that other law abiding skiers and riders were prevented from accessing Big Jay for their own off piste pursuits. There is a huge debate going on regarding if pruning is proper or not.
 

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On the very abstract level I guess. But looking at the actions, one upshot of their actions were that other law abiding skiers and riders were prevented from accessing Big Jay for their own off piste pursuits. There is a huge debate going on regarding if pruning is proper or not.

I'm just thinking out loud here - trust me I in no way condone the action of cutting a 200,000 square foot clearing on the side of a mountain. I was thining very abstractly. :beer:
 

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On the very abstract level I guess. But looking at the actions, one upshot of their actions were that other law abiding skiers and riders were prevented from accessing Big Jay for their own off piste pursuits. There is a huge debate going on regarding if pruning is proper or not.

Yeah I gathered that from the onthesnow article. I see it like normal, being reasonable with it (vs. wholesale deforestation).

Did you mean to say a negative of it was other skiers / riders being prevented from accessing Big Jay?
 

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Yeah, that's what I thought. You said an "upshot" of their actions was it being shut down :smash:

Right. As a result of the two illegal cutters, all skiers, riders, and hikers were prevented from accessing Big Jay by the footpath from Jay Peak.
 

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Right. As a result of the two illegal cutters, all skiers, riders, and hikers were prevented from accessing Big Jay by the footpath from Jay Peak.

:blink:

Isn't "upshot" a good thing?

IOW it's like saying, "On the plus side, at least all skiers riders and hikers were prevented from accessing Big Jay"
 

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Maybe I'm crazy.

I guess it just means "outcome". I thought it meant, "On the bright side"

The final or eventual outcome or conclusion of a discussion, action, or series of events
 

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:blink:

Isn't "upshot" a good thing?

IOW it's like saying, "On the plus side, at least all skiers riders and hikers were prevented from accessing Big Jay"

Upshot just means the "end result" "the outcome", I think, or at least that is the way I use it...maybe I have been using it wrong all these years.
 
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