Bearpen in NY catskill history

[summit62]

For hikers is trespassing a big deal?

It can be. In many cases, points of interest (waterfalls, viewpoints, etc.) require traversing private property to access. Often, landowners will tolerate minimal use of their property by responsible individuals or parties but it takes one bad apple to ruin it for everyone.

Bearpen is a beautiful mountain as it sits. Even as a skier, I would hate to see trails and lift lines cut there. I would love to see it maintained as controlled cat access glade skiing when there is enough snow. Also in our dreams.

 

[legalskier]

Scotty - let me know when you want to go... I've explored around there before.. But never made it all the way up.

Yes Scottie- we're expecting a detailed trip report from you (and dmc?) after the First Big Dump.


With pics, of course.

 

[SIKSKIER]

Thats is a fantastic link to a story that I never knew any part of.

 

[bdfreetuna]

Not to be a downer but RIP snow! Global warming has us all fucked! Trying to build any ski resort that isn't on the Canadian border is f*cked.

1000 feet of vert, in the Catskills. You'd have to be crazy to start that up now. Maybe it really was "powder country" like the article said back in 1940.

This is 2012 and skiing is an endangered way of life, in case I'm the only one who has noticed.

 

[BeefyBoy50]

I wish this was an option for most of these "proposed ski areas". No, I don't really want to see these mountains developed, with all the trees cut down and every other acre inhabited by a condo, but I do want to ski these mountains. It would be nice if volunteering to cut down smaller brambles and bushes in the forests of these mountains was legal because then we could have lots of glades on mountains all over without those mountains necessarily becoming ski "resorts" with waterslides and shopping malls...

 

[ScottySkis]

Not to be a downer but RIP snow! Global warming has us all fucked! Trying to build any ski resort that isn't on the Canadian border is f*cked.

1000 feet of vert, in the Catskills. You'd have to be crazy to start that up now. Maybe it really was "powder country" like the article said back in 1940.

This is 2012 and skiing is an endangered way of life, in case I'm the only one who has noticed.

2000 vertical, lots of natural snow, west Catskills get most lots of lake effect and it get mountain pulling down snow effect, I know it will not happen now, just a dream.

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[ScottySkis]

I wish this was an option for most of these "proposed ski areas". No, I don't really want to see these mountains developed, with all the trees cut down and every other acre inhabited by a condo, but I do want to ski these mountains. It would be nice if volunteering to cut down smaller brambles and bushes in the forests of these mountains was legal because then we could have lots of glades on mountains all over without those mountains necessarily becoming ski "resorts" with waterslides and shopping malls...

This is the idea.

 

[180]

DMC, I am in!

 

[BenedictGomez]

OMG there's a second one.

 

[ScottySkis]

OMG there's a second one.

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Why wouldn't you want a place that gets some winter's Killington snow fall and more vertical then a k any peak to have fun on in the winter that happens to be closer to NYC metro then this hill?

 

[SIKSKIER]

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Why wouldn't you want a place that gets some winter's Killington snow fall and more vertical then a k any peak to have fun on in the winter that happens to be closer to NYC metro then this hill?

closer to NYC metro

 

[watkin]

if you guys go, please post a trip report. ditto the pics!

 

[from_the_NEK]

Where are you getting 2000 ft of vert? The most I can squeeze out of the elevation data in Google Earth is 1850 and that is by going all the way to the road. And 1,300 of that looks to be rather uninteresting vert.

 

[dmc]

DMC, I am in!

10-4

 

[MadMadWorld]

Not to be a downer but RIP snow! Global warming has us all fucked! Trying to build any ski resort that isn't on the Canadian border is f*cked.

1000 feet of vert, in the Catskills. You'd have to be crazy to start that up now. Maybe it really was "powder country" like the article said back in 1940.

This is 2012 and skiing is an endangered way of life, in case I'm the only one who has noticed.

The Taliban couldn't hijack this many threads. Put the global warming discussion to bed.

 

[ScottySkis]

Where are you getting 2000 ft of vert? The most I can squeeze out of the elevation data in Google Earth is 1850 and that is by going all the way to the road. And 1,300 of that looks to be rather uninteresting vert.

The story from NY ski blog says that Bearpen has 1900 ski vertical.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Where are you getting 2000 ft of vert? The most I can squeeze out of the elevation data in Google Earth is 1850 and that is by going all the way to the road. And 1,300 of that looks to be rather uninteresting vert.

I think you picked the wrong peak or went the wrong direction. I just did it and got exactly 2000 (3600 - 1600).

Start from the higher (more south) of the two peaks and head northeast and you get 2000. Of course, this is ridiculously optimistic since it assumes you have skiing at the peak and a lift only 300 yards from the road. Then again, ski areas are "ridiculously optimistic" when they state their vert, so.......

 

[ScottySkis]

I think you picked the wrong peak or went the wrong direction. I just did it and got exactly 2000 (3600 - 1600).

Start from the higher (more south) of the two peaks and head northeast and you get 2000. Of course, this is ridiculously optimistic since it assumes you have skiing at the peak and a lift only 300 yards from the road. Then again, ski areas are "ridiculously optimistic" when they state their vert, so.......

http://nyskiblog.com/magazine/#nabble-td2551736 It might be flat in some spots but what hill other then Platty in the north east Vertical is not a little bit optimistic.

 

[BenedictGomez]

It might be flat in some spots but what hill other then Platty in the north east Vertical is not a little bit optimistic.

Can you rephrase this? It seems you're saying that eastern mountain's posted vertical are accurate except for Plattekill's, but I doubt you're saying that.

 

[mriceyman]

Can you rephrase this? It seems you're saying that eastern mountain's posted vertical are accurate except for Plattekill's, but I doubt you're saying that.

i read it the other way around.