Best Mogul Skiing in Northeast

[riverc0il]

I don't know, Riv. I was there right before Tele-Fest, and the lines were decent. I was there right after Tele-Fest, and I didn't enjoy the results from a WC-tech perspective. I know that was one isolated event, but I've noticed a trend with the actual formation of the moguls on that mountain that seems to have a relationship to the amount of tele-bumpers.

Tele-fest is one of the busiest weekends of the year at MRG. Is it perhaps not the tele aspect but rather the huge impact that amount of skiers has on conditions? Additionally, MRG generally draws an incredible caliber of skier. But Tele-fest draws Tele skiers from rank newbie to seasoned pro. So judging conditions before and after tele-fest may say more about tele-fest than about typical conditions.

 

[riverc0il]

KingM for the win on that comment. We really are splitting hairs. But if not that, then what the hell are we even posting anything for? Might as well hang up the internet and just go ski

 

[BushMogulMaster]

Tele-fest is one of the busiest weekends of the year at MRG. Is it perhaps not the tele aspect but rather the huge impact that amount of skiers has on conditions? Additionally, MRG generally draws an incredible caliber of skier. But Tele-fest draws Tele skiers from rank newbie to seasoned pro. So judging conditions before and after tele-fest may say more about tele-fest than about typical conditions.

Right, but that's not the only experience I'm talking about. That was just the most pronounced.

Look, the fact is, tele-turns are not like alpine mogul turns. I've noticed sharper drop offs on the backside of bumps, slightly wider spaced bumps, etc. I don't want this to be an issue, but I've pretty much devoted my skiing career to bump skiing. I love analyzing different techniques, and that seems to be the trend with tele-turns.

There are a good number of tele-skiers at Sugarbush as well, but there don't seem to be as many in the bumps. Of course, that could have something to do with the fact that there are more bump-free options at SB than at MRG. At MRG, if you ride the single, you're left with very little choice........ you're skiing bumps!

 

[BushMogulMaster]

KingM for the win on that comment. We really are splitting hairs. But if not that, then what the hell are we even posting anything for? Might as well hang up the internet and just go ski

:lol: Good idea! I think I'll go Wednesday.

 

[2knees]

How much of the bumps at the Bush get mowed and resurfaced? Natural bumps versus bumps with man made snow both suck pretty bad after a hard freeze. Bush does have the edge on the runs that it does knock down the bumps and let them regrow as MRG doesn't knock anything down.

Off the top of my head one biggy comes to mind. Exterminator. Oh well. I've never skied MRG and i really try not to talk about areas i've never visited. I thought i was within bounds to make this one judgement call, maybe i was wrong.

 

[AMAC2233]

I know that Jay Peak is really known for its glades, but when I was there I found the place had quite a few legit bump runs...

 

[deadheadskier]

Thanks for the reality check. Very good point.

The fact is, the best mogul skiing in the east is the Mad River Valley. Period.

I can agree to that and Sugarloaf being a close second. I think the skiers at both these destination really drive this home. Good skiers make good bumps period, even at areas without that great of snowfall. This is especially true at the loaf.

I think seeded bumps are a godsend because even gapers really can't screw them up. That's the beauty in the bumps in the MRV, there are no seeded lines, yet they still are consistently the best. Go up the road to Stowe and the bumps aren't nearly as good, except for in the woods. I skied Stowe as my home mountain for a solid six years and was always majorly dissappointed in the bump runs, yet the heavy traffic glade areas always had fantastic bumps. I have to assume it's because those skiing in the woods were fantastic skiers.

 

[RustyK]

I can agree to that and Sugarloaf being a close second. I think the skiers at both these destination really drive this home. Good skiers make good bumps period, even at areas without that great of snowfall. This is especially true at the loaf.

I think seeded bumps are a godsend because even gapers really can't screw them up. That's the beauty in the bumps in the MRV, there are no seeded lines, yet they still are consistently the best. Go up the road to Stowe and the bumps aren't nearly as good, except for in the woods. I skied Stowe as my home mountain for a solid six years and was always majorly dissappointed in the bump runs, yet the heavy traffic glade areas always had fantastic bumps. I have to assume it's because those skiing in the woods were fantastic skiers.

MRG has great bumps because the snowboarders did not widen the lines.
The Bush has great tree bumps but some lines get big due to the boarders.
I'm at the "K' most of the time. Bumps there are better in the spring.

 

[freeheel_skier]

MRG has great bumps because the snowboarders did not widen the lines.
The Bush has great tree bumps but some lines get big due to the boarders.

OK here we go.......Let the flamming begin!!!!

 

[2knees]

OK here we go.......Let the flamming begin!!!!

Just to add some killington fire.

More top notch U.S. bumpers have come out of killington than any other eastern area. That used to carry some weight but Killington seemed to have softened recently.

 

[skiadikt]

Just to add some killington fire.

More top notch U.S. bumpers have come out of killington than any other eastern area. That used to carry some weight but Killington seemed to have softened recently.

i saw "the hammer" at k this past sunday. i think he still carries some weight ... but you're right k has softened recently. when the snow's good, there's nothing like mad river.

 

[riverc0il]

I know that Jay Peak is really known for its glades, but when I was there I found the place had quite a few legit bump runs...

Indeed. I wouldn't rank it up in say the top three, probably not even the top five, for bumps in New England, but Jay does have some great bump runs. Additionally, a majority of the on map glades bump up within a day or two of storms, so if you could the glades, more than a third of Jay's on map trails are usually bumped.

 

[Marc]

Nashoba Valley.

 

[deadheadskier]

Just to add some killington fire.

More top notch U.S. bumpers have come out of killington than any other eastern area. That used to carry some weight but Killington seemed to have softened recently.

Correction: more top notch US bumpers have come out of killington mountain school......


with the caliber of coaches they had/have there, that's really not that big of a surprise. Not to take anything away from the bumps at Killington as they can be quite good.

 

[2knees]

i saw "the hammer" at k this past sunday. i think he still carries some weight ... but you're right k has softened recently. when the snow's good, there's nothing like mad river.

just so i dont piss off anyone else, i was referring to killington not carrying the same weight when it comes to bump skiing, not the skiers who come out of there. K produced Donna W. Steve Desovich, Bobby Aldigehri (sp?) Chuck Martin among others. I'm not aware of any more current world cup or olympic bumpers but i'm sure there have been a few.


Whoops, as deadhead pointed out it was KMS, not killington, but still quite a list of champions.

 

[atkinson]

David Babic and Andy Woods both came from Sugarbush's Diamond Dog program. And some of KMS's best coaches came from here too.

As for the debate about who ruins bumps, clearly anybody who isn't an expert on alpine gear is an offender. I've always been surprised that MRG lets tele-skidders on the Chute at all.

Let's face it, a good snowboarder, a good tele-skier and a good alpine skier all make good bumps. Less skilled sliders don't.

John

 

[BushMogulMaster]

David Babic and Andy Woods both came from Sugarbush's Diamond Dog program. And some of KMS's best coaches came from here too.

As for the debate about who ruins bumps, clearly anybody who isn't an expert on alpine gear is an offender. I've always been surprised that MRG lets tele-skidders on the Chute at all.

Let's face it, a good snowboarder, a good tele-skier and a good alpine skier all make good bumps. Less skilled sliders don't.

John

Hmm, I would revise to say "a good snowboarder, a good tele-skier, and a good alpine skier don't ruin bumps. Less skilled sliders do."

I have yet to see snowboarders make any moguls, let alone good ones! I'm not going down the "snowboarders kill moguls" route, because I know a handful who can rip right through them harmlessly. But still... I think you'd be hard pressed to see boarders make bumps.

 

[ts01]

But still... I think you'd be hard pressed to see boarders make bumps.

Wrong. Boarders make perfectly fine bumps. Here's the secret: when boarders sit in the middle of the trail, if they're nicely spaced out (often the case), you just skid gently into their backside, pivot, and jam your tips around their front; slide down to the next boarder and repeat. Focus two or three boarders down the trail, and you'll develop a good rhythm.

[/JOKE]

 

[Marc]

Wrong. Boarders make perfectly fine bumps. Here's the secret: when boarders sit in the middle of the trail, if they're nicely spaced out (often the case), you just skid gently into their backside, pivot, and jam your tips around their front; slide down to the next boarder and repeat. Focus two or three boarders down the trail, and you'll develop a good rhythm.

[/JOKE]

Lol.... that's funny, I don' care who y'are.

 

[BushMogulMaster]

Wrong. Boarders make perfectly fine bumps. Here's the secret: when boarders sit in the middle of the trail, if they're nicely spaced out (often the case), you just skid gently into their backside, pivot, and jam your tips around their front; slide down to the next boarder and repeat. Focus two or three boarders down the trail, and you'll develop a good rhythm.

[/JOKE]

:lol: Good idea! :lol: