Exactly. Nobody is a hater of the mountain at all. My home mountain is Burke; it's just that folks don't like the (hostile) management that we now have.
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Exactly. Nobody is a hater of the mountain at all. My home mountain is Burke; it's just that folks don't like the (hostile) management that we now have.
Masskier
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Welcome back to Burke
whiskey jack
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I know the KT saga is well known, but what is the problem with QBurke and BMA?
MadMadWorld
Active member
What is KT and BMA?
Kingdom trails and Burke Mountain Academy
KT = Kingdom Trails
BMA - Burke Mountain Academy
WJ - Only heard grumblings and I'm not going to start more internet rumors. Before the server meltdown, did you happen catch the first person account of Jr.s convo with a season pass holder and his position regarding the BMA agreement? Or his attitude towards KT (still). That would basically be the same rumbling I heard as well.
Time will tell, just because Jr says one thing off the cuff doesn't mean he will act or follow through on anything.
But he's an idiot for saying it to paying customers.
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Oh, no doubt. Sums up the mature approach to managing a business in a little nutshell.
VTKilarney
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I'll be very blunt. There are two types of people in this thread. Those who are honest about their concerns with management and those who aren't honest about their concerns. Generally, the "everybody's happy" camp has a self interest at work.
The amount, and level of detail, of concern may differ. But we've moved WELL beyond the point where anyone can legitimately contend that there aren't any grounds to be concerned.
The amount, and level of detail, of concern may differ. But we've moved WELL beyond the point where anyone can legitimately contend that there aren't any grounds to be concerned.
More than two types. I get all of the concerns. Hell I felt similar about Wildcat last year, commented publicly and privately about it and spoke with my wallet. Happy they improved many of their issues and likely will be back in next year.
But I also see where fromthenek is coming from in that at some point negativity goes beyond being constructive or beneficial.
By all means if there's an issue opening again for too much snow, let the management have it. But pat the backs of the people working there for doing the best they can with the tools they have.
The pervasive negativity in this thread was not what I experienced on the hill Saturday at all. Part of the reason I went was to see first hand what the mood was like. Literally every single lift ride I took was with passholders and I prodded them about the snowmaking problems and 100% said it's an issue, worse this year than before, but still having a pretty good year given the weather.
So I guess I reside in the middle. I get massskiers financial interest and positive spin. I get the other side to and the desire for better management.
But remember. We are not the normal public here on AZ. The vast majority of people would read this thread and kind of laugh a little. At the end of the day, it's just skiing and people have other options.
Some in this thread need to voice their concerns at the meeting, then head elsewhere for a year and see if the improvements happen.
But I also see where fromthenek is coming from in that at some point negativity goes beyond being constructive or beneficial.
By all means if there's an issue opening again for too much snow, let the management have it. But pat the backs of the people working there for doing the best they can with the tools they have.
The pervasive negativity in this thread was not what I experienced on the hill Saturday at all. Part of the reason I went was to see first hand what the mood was like. Literally every single lift ride I took was with passholders and I prodded them about the snowmaking problems and 100% said it's an issue, worse this year than before, but still having a pretty good year given the weather.
So I guess I reside in the middle. I get massskiers financial interest and positive spin. I get the other side to and the desire for better management.
But remember. We are not the normal public here on AZ. The vast majority of people would read this thread and kind of laugh a little. At the end of the day, it's just skiing and people have other options.
Some in this thread need to voice their concerns at the meeting, then head elsewhere for a year and see if the improvements happen.
VTKilarney
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from_the_NEK
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While I wasn't able to get out during the day to join DHS at Burke, I was able to get out for a late afternoon "take the 2 yr old for naptime" drive. I took a few pictures along the way:
VTKilarney
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Looks like Burke is in the 4-8" band. Hopefully it will be closer to 8 inches.
A buddy of mine skied today and reported that some of the trails could really stand for a re-fresh - so the timing of this storm is good. Wilderness was really icy, for example. The groomers were generally very firm (my friend said that you could definitely feel more chatter today), but still very skiable. Some of the natural snow trails have held up much better than others, such as The Gap and Lower Doug's Drop.
Between this storm and a couple of inches on Friday, things are shaping up well for the coming weekend. Let's just hope that temps are not too low.
A buddy of mine skied today and reported that some of the trails could really stand for a re-fresh - so the timing of this storm is good. Wilderness was really icy, for example. The groomers were generally very firm (my friend said that you could definitely feel more chatter today), but still very skiable. Some of the natural snow trails have held up much better than others, such as The Gap and Lower Doug's Drop.
Between this storm and a couple of inches on Friday, things are shaping up well for the coming weekend. Let's just hope that temps are not too low.
VTKilarney
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Burke reported 8 inches. The snow we got here was super-light. They groomed a number of trails, although the snow report email didn't list them by name. A look at the trail map shows that the groomed trails are the usual suspects.
from_the_NEK
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The East Bowl area should be prime today with the wind likely blowing all the fluff in there last night.
rueler
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If you are on the ski report page on their website, scroll down to where it says open trails/map. Click on that link. On that page there will be a trail map with a list of every trail below it. On the trail list it will indicate if the trail is open, if snow is being made on it and also if it has been groomed.
Edit: Upon reading your post again, I noticed that you were probably on the page I told you to navigate to. You must have seen all the trails they groomed then. The way you wrote the post made me think that since they didn't list which trails were groomed that you didn't know how to navigate to the trail page where that info would be shown. Sorry about that.
After the base I skied on Saturday, it must be fantastic at Burke today. Jealous of anyone who gets out there.
from_the_NEK
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After watching the webcam for a couple minutes, it looks like there are more people working on the hotel than skiing. The powder should hang around a while 
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.Masskier
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Just came in from skiing all morning. The conditions are epic. light fluffy powder. Didn't see anything groomed on the upper mountain. some trails had sections that were wind blown. But the sheltered trails and in the trees were all fluff. Still plenty of lines to be had. More snow Tomorrow night and Friday. Get it while you can.
VTKilarney
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Which part of the mountain held the snow the best?
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