VTKilarney
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You know that Burke is busy when the singles line is being used... Such as this past weekend.
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Big Burke announcement
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So I snagged one and love it. Very neat. They run a bit small and are $45. I bet they'd do a phone order for any Burke fans not in the area.
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And $35 adult tix this week. I think it was $45 last week.
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Here's an intersting encounter I had yesterday......
So I'm at a gas station in RI yesterday filling up the truck and a woman pulls in behind me, and she keeps looking over and catching my eye, and at first I thought maybe she thought I was attractive......then of course I realized that couldn't be true......finally she asks if I ride Kingdom Trails....and points to the KT sticker on my truck cap.
Evidently she lived in Burke for years, loves the area etc. and she asks me how the hotel and new onwership is doing on the mountain.......since I didn't know her or where she stood on the new ownership I played it down the middle to which she goes and I'm partially paraphrasing here:
"I've heard from all my family and friends up there that it is a total shit show and how 'the kid' is basically alienating everyone from BMA to KT to passholders etc. I had family and friends that worked on the mountain all lose their jobs or quit dealing with the schizo management style. She openly remarked that Ary can't run the Tamarack with a captive audence let alone a whole resort.......one day we're a steakhouse, then next a Mexican joint, but wait we're a tapas bar......hold on Mardis Gras.....so sad, it used to be such a great family mountain."
I thought the family mountain comment was probably spot on but also the major reason why change was needed and why the mountain has struggled in the past.
I just found the whole exchange interesting in its randomness and how once the bottle opened she went off and there was some obvious anger conveyed though her from her family.
So, I guess it is true, people all over New England are talking about Burke more.....some good, some not so good.
That being said, it is damn hard for any New England ski mountain to not have fantastic snow conditions and a good year at this point. Mother nature and good conditions can really smooth over piss poor management and more localized issues.
Make of that exchange what you wish, I just thought it was worth sharing.....
So I'm at a gas station in RI yesterday filling up the truck and a woman pulls in behind me, and she keeps looking over and catching my eye, and at first I thought maybe she thought I was attractive......then of course I realized that couldn't be true......finally she asks if I ride Kingdom Trails....and points to the KT sticker on my truck cap.
Evidently she lived in Burke for years, loves the area etc. and she asks me how the hotel and new onwership is doing on the mountain.......since I didn't know her or where she stood on the new ownership I played it down the middle to which she goes and I'm partially paraphrasing here:
"I've heard from all my family and friends up there that it is a total shit show and how 'the kid' is basically alienating everyone from BMA to KT to passholders etc. I had family and friends that worked on the mountain all lose their jobs or quit dealing with the schizo management style. She openly remarked that Ary can't run the Tamarack with a captive audence let alone a whole resort.......one day we're a steakhouse, then next a Mexican joint, but wait we're a tapas bar......hold on Mardis Gras.....so sad, it used to be such a great family mountain."
I thought the family mountain comment was probably spot on but also the major reason why change was needed and why the mountain has struggled in the past.
I just found the whole exchange interesting in its randomness and how once the bottle opened she went off and there was some obvious anger conveyed though her from her family.
So, I guess it is true, people all over New England are talking about Burke more.....some good, some not so good.
That being said, it is damn hard for any New England ski mountain to not have fantastic snow conditions and a good year at this point. Mother nature and good conditions can really smooth over piss poor management and more localized issues.
Make of that exchange what you wish, I just thought it was worth sharing.....
I got stopped in the parking lot by a couple guys from MA during Presidents Week and was asked "we've been wondering all day, what's up with the Q". Without opinion, I said the owners last name starts with a Q. Their response was "what a queen".
Yeah, it's unfortunate because as folks know that there was really no reason to burn bridges/change anything. Burke's genuine nature is what the market craves.
The interesting thing is that the genuineness (is that a word?) has been tarnished to a certain extent at least as far as the Q goes. I have detected this odd undertone with many of my out of state friends that frequent the area for KT and or the mountain in general. The undertone is that they basically feel that giving the mountain any business is basically like they are betraying the real Burkies and the folks that have been steamrolled by Jr. So they don't, they don't go to the Tamarack (can't say I have been in while either by choice), they don't ski there, and they don't plan on riding the bike park run by Q.
That's what I saw. Folks just shrugged and said, "this too shall pass." I was stunned as to just how much Q inventory they had in the store that was NOT selling.
Smellytele
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After following this thread since the beginning and making some comments I have some more thoughts. The people posting on here from the NEK seem to believe that the way the mountain was run before was the way to run the mountain. Unfortunately the mountain was failing the way it was run before. Changes needed to be made but that being said I don't think some of the changes that were made were the changes that needed to be made either.
Changes that I have seen that shouldn't have been made.
brown bag in the basement,
getting rid of the bag check
Adding the Q
Hiring some people for jobs they have no right to have
Changes that were good
Building the hotel
Firing some people that were too comfortable
Moving the retail to a location were it can be seen
Things I am not sure about
Is the Tamarck grill/bar not open on weekdays. It wasn't last Tuesday when I was there or didn't seem to be
Changes that I have seen that shouldn't have been made.
brown bag in the basement,
getting rid of the bag check
Adding the Q
Hiring some people for jobs they have no right to have
Changes that were good
Building the hotel
Firing some people that were too comfortable
Moving the retail to a location were it can be seen
Things I am not sure about
Is the Tamarck grill/bar not open on weekdays. It wasn't last Tuesday when I was there or didn't seem to be
I like the pros and cons list. I live here and don't know anybody who believes it was a sustainable model. Of course we'd prefer to have the mountain all to ourselves but also realize that won't work financially.
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The hope of many is that Little Q stays quiet (as he has) and keeps a low profile before going on to the next endeavor. I know that they were going to be manufacturing planes, so that is a good fit for him (I sound like a broken record...I know).
I think that the Hotel is a huge plus...assuming that they market and run it right. But I feel that they could be in the same place without nearly as much of the drama/strife as there has been. Why burn your own supporters?
I think that the Hotel is a huge plus...assuming that they market and run it right. But I feel that they could be in the same place without nearly as much of the drama/strife as there has been. Why burn your own supporters?
VTKilarney
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I really love ski in, ski out lodging, and I think that this will help to fill the hotel. I'm definitely looking forward to the hotel coming online. I just hope that the mountain bikers embrace it as well. Does anyone know if they will offer secure storage of bicycles?
I don't think that the Mountain Bike crowd will use the Hotel. Some will, but most of that crowd will spend $5,000 on a bike and then sleep in a tent or the back of a truck.
+1
Hear they have climate controlled tennis racket storage though.
Hear they have climate controlled tennis racket storage though.
SkiingInABlueDream
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All that "Q" branded merchandise might someday have novelty value. Kind of like Seattle Seahawks 2015 superbowl champs stuff that got produced only to be recalled. :lol:
Smellytele
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Are we going to see kids in Africa and South America wearing Qburke clothes in National Geographic?
That thought crossed my mind....but I did not want to put money in his pocket. Hence why I went to EBS and got one of their "special" hoodies.
SkiingInABlueDream
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Lol! 
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